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  • creekrat77
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    #41
    Originally posted by denium
    Of course Fury has passion for the sport. He's a traveller, fighting is deeply engrained into his culture. He's also been in a gym all his life, he was boxing at young age, it's all he knows. Take what Fury says in the build up to a fight with a pinch of salt.


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    Exactly. In my opinion the best boxers are those with the fighting background and instincts ingrained in their culture. For example Pacquiao, Golovkin, Floyd, Morales, Dempsey. Their natural born fighters and its what they do for a living. Fury represents where he comes from and the culture that is akin to him and his traveling society. If he wasn't boxing he'd probably be doing underground fist fighting with all the pikies

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    • M Bison
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      #42
      Originally posted by beez721
      fury pulled straight back in that fight with his chin in the air. Ive noticed he mostly corrected that bad habit. I dont think wlads going to get those free shots that cunningham had
      Likely not but I think sooner or later If Wlad hits with something It's going to take the fight into Fury fighting Wladimir at his own clinch game lol.
      Maybe he wont get any free hits on Fury but I'm just so unsure of Fury defense being good enough to stop that jab and straight from piercing through the guard.

      I'm pretty hyped for this fight, its a dangerous one for both men.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Red Cyclone
        Likely not but I think sooner or later If Wlad hits with something It's going to take the fight into Fury fighting Wladimir at his own clinch game lol.
        Maybe he wont get any free hits on Fury but I'm just so unsure of Fury defense being good enough to stop that jab and straight from piercing through the guard.

        I'm pretty hyped for this fight, its a dangerous one for both men.
        yea,,,,im leaning toward wlad getting a bomb in at some point but I wouldnt be surprised if fury pulls the upset. he throws alot of punches for a heavyweight and aging fighters dont like that. cant wait for this fight

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          #44
          Originally posted by Red Cyclone
          Yeah I agree, I think Fury can move a bit around the ring but look at the knock down that happened against Cunningham, my estimation on that happening was infact bad footwork.
          Bare in mind Sergio Martinez was a great mover but his out of balanced action from his style of moving often found himself tasting the canvas not because he was hurt but simply because he couldn't do anything to keep upright.

          Similar? I think so.
          I think Fury in fact has very good footwork.

          The Cunningham knockdown was really basically a fluke.

          It happened at the beginning of the second round, and Fury had his hands down and was being careless.

          Fury was clowning in the first round, and shoved Cunningham at the end of the round.

          He wasn't taking the fight seriously.

          Cunningham ran straight out at the start of the second, and made him pay for it.

          Footwork had nothing to do with it.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Red Cyclone
            His shelf life wont be anywhere near as long as Wladimir either, different type of professionals all together!
            Tyson is your average gypsie and that's just the truth he doesn't hide it and he likes to neck it back on the weekend hard style
            Long career at heavyweight, I doubt it, he wants a good pay day then he can buy a few more caravans and retire happily.
            The gypsy/traveller demographic in the UK and Ireland is one that produces a lot of fighters.

            It is cultural.

            Many many many fighters from that part of the world come from that background.

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              #46
              Originally posted by creekrat77
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              Originally Posted by denium

              Of course Fury has passion for the sport. He's a traveller, fighting is deeply engrained into his culture. He's also been in a gym all his life, he was boxing at young age, it's all he knows. Take what Fury says in the build up to a fight with a pinch of salt.


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              Exactly. In my opinion the best boxers are those with the fighting background and instincts ingrained in their culture. For example Pacquiao, Golovkin, Floyd, Morales, Dempsey. Their natural born fighters and its what they do for a living. Fury represents where he comes from and the culture that is akin to him and his traveling society. If he wasn't boxing he'd probably be doing underground fist fighting with all the pikies
              Watch any of Fury's IFL interviews & press conferences and it's obvious to anyone that Fury lives and breathes boxing. He clearly knows his history. His entire family are all fighting men, that's probably all they've ever talked about for 20 years or whenever Tyson first laced up a pair of gloves. He isn't Wladimir who lives in Hollywood & dates movie stars. Wladimir already admitted during the last presser that he doesn't like hurting people.

              Wladimir was molded into a fighter, Fury is born fighter.


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                #47
                Originally posted by denium
                Watch any of Fury's IFL interviews & press conferences and it's obvious to anyone that Fury lives and breathes boxing. He clearly knows his history. His entire family are all fighting men, that's probably all they've ever talked about for 20 years or whenever Tyson first laced up a pair of gloves. He isn't Wladimir who lives in Hollywood & dates movie stars. Wladimir already admitted during the last presser that he doesn't like hurting people.

                Wladimir was molded into a fighter, Fury is born fighter.


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                That's why I say a guy like Fury, win or lose, is here to stay. It's his craft, what he does for a living. He's very sharp and extremely quick in his verbal attacks. In a nutshell he is and will remain himself. He doesn't let outside en****** influence who he is and what he says. Every other guy like Wilder, Haye, Wlad and many more stay in line and let their success mold who they are and how they live their life. Wilder is being portrayed as this juggernaut of a knockout superstar who fights anyone anywhere anytime. But does anyone really believe it? I find these guys are more acting then being themselves. For example like you say about Wlad not liking hurting people. That shouldn't even come into your phsyche as the worlds number one reigning heavyweight. He should just keep that to himself. All I know is for Fury, what you see is what you get. Haye, Wlad, and Wilder are all smoke and mirrors. They all are in on it together like many other celebrity boxers and emulate a character rather than truly being it. Mike Tyson, James Toney, were the real deal and lived the life. These other heavyweights right now have one foot in and one foot out as a boxer. Its almost like they are taking advantage of the fact that they are great boxers and milking the sport for all its worth. I don't see much genuine passion or direction

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                  #48
                  The addition of this one subordinate clause, Since Wlad teamed up with Emanuel Steward, is how I would improve upon the article Lyle Fitzsimmons wrote. And I'll bet that's what Wlad would say as well. Of course, I am a bit prejudiced as I believe that Manny is the greatest boxing trainer of the last forty years.
                  Last edited by Mr.Daddy; 11-03-2015, 01:53 PM.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by denium
                    Yes he is. Wladimir is technically limited. He wins fights due to his size, power and cheating tactics aka leaning and grabbing his opponents.

                    If you can't see this, you're clearly a mong.




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                    Oh, please don't hurt my feelings!

                    Clearly. Wlad might do the same thing all the time, but he's better at that than any other heavyweight. His jab alone makes him more technically astute than Fury. And I'm a Fury fan. Yes, he can switch-hit and boxes decently for his size, but he's nowhere near as slick as Klitschko. And if you can't see that, you've got a bad eye for boxing.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by MisterDeclanCor
                      Oh, please don't hurt my feelings!

                      Clearly. Wlad might do the same thing all the time, but he's better at that than any other heavyweight. His jab alone makes him more technically astute than Fury. And I'm a Fury fan. Yes, he can switch-hit and boxes decently for his size, but he's nowhere near as slick as Klitschko. And if you can't see that, you've got a bad eye for boxing.
                      I think Wlad. has one of the best jabs in all of boxing (or at least one of the most effective, without a single doubt).

                      I guess one of the big questions going into this fight, is whether Fury can solve Wlad's puzzle.

                      That's the question before every Wlad. fight, since his rebirth.

                      But, Fury is a unique challenge.

                      Wlad. just might be beginning to slip a little bit, also.

                      And I for one feel that the loss of Emmanual Steward may in fact have effected his fighting style, a bit.

                      Banks seems to have been a decent fill in, but he can't fill Emmanual's shoes.

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