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  • #31
    Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi View Post
    That's not happening.

    Ok, this has been well documented. Either your trolling, or you really haven't been paying attention.

    Cotto was supposed to fight GGG for the belt.

    Cotto wanted Canelo.

    GGG signed step aside agreement, allowing Cotto /Canelo, but only if he gets winner or if they refuse, he gets belt.

    So if Canelo wins, he has 15 days to inform WBC if he plans of defending it against GGG.

    Most boxing scribes believe Canelo is scared of GGG, and rather get KO'd, will vacate.

    If he does that, GGG walks away with title.

    If Floyd wants it, he has to fight GGG.

    Ring Magazine said they'll do the same with lineal title.

    Ok, now we're on same page.

    If you think anything else is happening, your gonna be let down.
    Ring magazine is not decided by one person, everything they do is voted on by a group of boxing writers. If the winner of Cotto/Canelo vacates the title, then fights a top Ring rated middleweight, then they will remain with the Lineal title. Stripping the winner for not fighting GGG is not in the bylaws, so it would most definitely have to be voted on. And lets be serious with this mess, Golden Boy owns Ring, so if you think they have no influence on a vote, especially one that will potentially involve Canelo, then you're crazier than your infinite responses already imply.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by ThatDude44 View Post
      Very obedient of GGG to show up and honor the king.
      Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh View Post
      Small but critical correction. The winner of Cotto/Canelo will have 15 days to begin negotiations with GGG, once negotiations begin they will have 30 days to complete negotiations and submit a contract to the WBC. If negotiations do not begin with in the 15 day period, WBC may at it's discretion, strip the winner. It's important to note that Sulaiman has not actually said Cotto/Canelo would be stripped, He has only said they "RISK" being stripped. Take that for what its worth.
      Yea for most of that, but he has said they would be stripped. He said this on multiple occasions. Here is one quote where he says they must face GGG.

      This is from other day, he says must, but it was only to reiterate what he has said six other times.

      "The winner of Cotto-Canelo must fight Golovkin," Sulaiman said. "Canelo and Cotto are at an elite level in boxing, and Golovkin has been demonstrating that he belongs there too. This would be one of the biggest fights in history. Golovkin has demonstrated exactly why he is at the level of being considered one of the two best fighters [pound-for-pound] in boxing."

      However, Canelo is likely to vacate the belt first, especially in light that WBC just vacated Floyd's belts.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by JmH Reborn View Post
        Lol - hasn't defended 154 in 2+ years but still keeps champ status; and we're supposed to believe WBC will force Canelo or Cotto to defend it against their silly interim champ?

        Floyd will come back, pending a silly Pacquiao win against someone, even though he shouldn't be fighting anymore and secure another $50-100M payday.

        They hype will be ridiculous, but not warranted - the rhetoric will be shameful...

        And I'll watch anyways

        I hate boxing
        The most corrupt organisation in boxing. They made another champion from another organisation their a mandatory in their rankings, something they have never done before or since, now they have made a fighter who is retired the emeritus status, even doe he has not fought or defend that belt in a few years. Same organisation that gave Vitali the same status even doe he didnt deserve it.

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        • #34
          At least they're saying because Canelo is saying he isn't a MW

          Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh View Post
          Ring magazine is not decided by one person, everything they do is voted on by a group of boxing writers. If the winner of Cotto/Canelo vacates the title, then fights a top Ring rated middleweight, then they will remain with the Lineal title. Stripping the winner for not fighting GGG is not in the bylaws, so it would most definitely have to be voted on. And lets be serious with this mess, Golden Boy owns Ring, so if you think they have no influence on a vote, especially one that will potentially involve Canelo, then you're crazier than your infinite responses already imply.
          Ok first, I've stated multiple times considering Ring Mag is owned by GOLDENBOY, I take everything they say with grain of salt.

          Second, they have addressed this. They said a few weeks ago they are under pressure to do right thing.

          They already addressed this too. Dougies Monday Mailbag addressed this multiple times in last few weeks.

          It's in there if you want to read it.

          First, there are multiple reasons they can strip a lineal.

          One of them is moving to another weight class. Ring has said if Canelo insists he isn't a MW, then they would likely vote to strip him. Canelo won't fight a top rated MW anyways, he is too scared, and just to keep the lineal everyone would deem meaningless.

          Dougie said Friday he didn't think Canelo would fight GGG, but most of the editorial board feels strongly GGG should then get lineal.

          THE RING belt if the Editorial Board deems the contenders worthy. Here are the seven situations in which a champion can lose his belt:

          The Champion loses a fight in the weight class in which he is champion.
          The Champion moves to another weight class.
          The Champion does not schedule a fight in any weight class for 18 months.
          The Champion does not schedule a fight at his championship weight for 18 months (even if he fights at another weight).
          The Champion does not schedule a fight with a Top-5 contender from any weight class for two years.
          The Champion retires.
          The Champion tests positive for a banned substance.

          But like you noted and I noted, it is Goldenboy owned, and they rigged the system. Yet that weakens there brand. I'm not sure they want that.

          However, the lineal wouldn't mean much to Floyd attached to a guy he knows isn't really gonna give him credit as MW champion. And it's not really a title. It wouldn't mean he suddenly has a title from the MW division.

          My original point still stands, Canelo won't have any belt to offer him.

          I love how GGG haters wish him to fail, but by not having people fight him.

          I guess screaming resume is easier that way.
          Last edited by Progrssive_Jedi; 11-02-2015, 03:58 AM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Ray* View Post
            The most corrupt organisation in boxing. They made another champion from another organisation their a mandatory in their rankings, something they have never done before or since, now they have made a fighter who is retired the emeritus status, even doe he has not fought or defend that belt in a few years. Same organisation that gave Vitali the same status even doe he didnt deserve it.
            What do you care if Floyd is Emeritus?

            It's not a real title, it is ceremonial.

            It just allows him a chance to fight for the title if he comes back.

            Floyd has earned that right.

            I agree, he should of defended that title.

            However, they are doing good things.

            GGG was there today praising them, he seems pretty confident in their agreement.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi View Post
              What do you care if Floyd is Emeritus?

              It's not a real title, it is ceremonial.

              It just allows him a chance to fight for the title if he comes back.

              Floyd has earned that right.

              I agree, he should of defended that title.

              However, they are doing good things.

              GGG was there today praising them, he seems pretty confident in their agreement.
              Am a boxing fan so yes i care, when someone doesnt deserve a status they dont deserve it period.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                Am a boxing fan so yes i care, when someone doesnt deserve a status they dont deserve it period.
                I'm just asking. I don't like Floyd at all. But I'm fine with him getting this meaningless designation.

                This is why, If Floyd comes back, whoever has those titles would fight him anyways.

                At least now, others can fight for those titles.

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                • #38
                  If the WBC is willing to Vacate Floyd's titles, they'll hold up their agreement

                  Plus, team GGG have a pretty decent agreement in place.

                  I'm not worried they'll back out.

                  I think Canelo wants to vacate. He's under pressure now, and Vacating is the only way out of it.

                  And even then he has many people calling him a coward.

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                  • #39
                    Being made emeritus at 154 is pointless 147 is fine

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                    • #40
                      What do you care if Floyd is Emeritus?

                      It's not a real title, it is ceremonial.

                      It just allows him a chance to fight for the title if he comes back.
                      Floyd has earned that right.

                      I agree, he should of defended that title.

                      However, they are doing good things.

                      GGG was there today praising them, he seems pretty confident in their agreement.
                      Thanks for clarifying, I was confused about the point of an honorary title.

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