Comments Thread For: Cotto Rejects Margarito: Failed To Prove He Didn't Cheat

[Dirk Diggler UK]

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If they found nothing in those pads them why Capetillo was banned and Margacheato got suspended for a year??


Well I can explain Margacheato = Arum and a lot of $$$$$$, he should of also get banned.


Hating Cotto is one thing, but supporting a cheater is ridiculous.

I didn't say they found nothing in the pads. They found elements which could form to make plaster. The elements could also be found in other things.

Capetillo never said he'd been wrapping Margarito's hands "like that for years" though which is what the guy I was replying to claimed.

[Puya]

I didn't say they found nothing in the pads. They found elements which could form to make plaster. The elements could also be found in other things.

Capetillo never said he'd been wrapping Margarito's hands "like that for years" though which is what the guy I was replying to claimed.

For me I really do think he cheated. as far as the bold statement I cannot quote what Capetillo said. I quoted you because your post provided a bit of info answering a question I asked.

[aboutfkntime]

What do you mean? They are two different commissions so no the commission is not just the commission lol. Kizer is from the Nevada commission.

Capetillo also did not testify that. He said that he pulled an old pair of knuckle pads out of his bag by mistake. Whether you believe that or not is up to you but he never said anything about wrapping Margarito's hands "like that" for years.

So much misinformation and half-truths on the issue.

Maybe you are unaware.....

Margarito PASSED commission testing, and so did Trinidad.

Margarito had passed commission testing in the Mosley fight, and Trinidad had passed commission testing in the Hopkins fight as well.

BOTH fighters had to re-wrap.

So it appears that the commission IS the commission when it comes to shoddy standards..... especially considering the Trinidad issue.

Trinidad's wraps were LEGAL in other states, just not in New York..... and yet the NYSAC signed off on them anyway

And the situation is the same with Mosley, CSAC had signed off on one of Margarito's gloves BEFORE Richardson had even entered the room.

Richardson caught Margarito, the commission FAILED to catch him..... just like they FAILED to catch Trinidad.

So the point " but Kizer said..... " doesn't prove a damn thing.

And Capetillo did state in front of the commission that there was nothing different about the way he wrapped Margarito's hands for the Mosley fight.

I remember it specifically.

[aboutfkntime]

***it, I'll try find the Capetillo quote.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Maybe you are unaware.....

Margarito PASSED commission testing, and so did Trinidad.

Margarito had passed commission testing in the Mosley fight, and Trinidad had passed commission testing in the Hopkins fight as well.

BOTH fighters had to re-wrap.

So it appears that the commission IS the commission when it comes to shoddy standards..... especially considering the Trinidad issue.

Trinidad's wraps were LEGAL in other states, just not in New York..... and yet the NYSAC signed off on them anyway

And the situation is the same with Mosley, CSAC had signed off on one of Margarito's gloves BEFORE Richardson had even entered the room.

Richardson caught Margarito, the commission FAILED to catch him..... just like they FAILED to catch Trinidad.

So the point " but Kizer said..... " doesn't prove a damn thing.

And Capetillo did state in front of the commission that there was nothing different about the way he wrapped Margarito's hands for the Mosley fight.

I remember it specifically.

You're talking about 3 different commissions and saying they are all the same

Kizer has nothing to do with Richardson catching Margarito because Kizer is from the Nevada commission and Richardson caught Margarito in California.

Capetillo testified that he accidentally used old knuckle pads that he pulled out from his bag.

[aboutfkntime]

this alludes to it.....

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2009/feb/11/antonio-margarito-javier-capetillo-cheating

And this is interesting.....
Capetillo shredded his credibility by maintaining that the use of the inserts was accidental. A trainer doesn’t reach into his bag and make a mistake like that. To say that’s what happened here is nonsense.

Moreover, if (as Capetillo claims) the knuckle pads he pulled out of his bag “by mistake” had been used by another fighter in the gym, why was the gauze that surrounded the illegal inserts squeaky-clean?

There has been near-universal condemnation of Capetillo for his role in the handwrap scandal, and justly so.

http://www.secondsout.com/columns/thomas-hauser/antonio-margarito-and-the-handwrap-issue

But I cant find the records containing the official testimony.

The transcript was published on this very site at the time.

Capetillo said words to this effect..... we did nothing wrong, I wrapped his hands the same way I have done for years, but I took the wrong pad from my training bag.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

this alludes to it.....

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2009/feb/11/antonio-margarito-javier-capetillo-cheating

And this is interesting.....
Capetillo shredded his credibility by maintaining that the use of the inserts was accidental. A trainer doesn’t reach into his bag and make a mistake like that. To say that’s what happened here is nonsense.

Moreover, if (as Capetillo claims) the knuckle pads he pulled out of his bag “by mistake” had been used by another fighter in the gym, why was the gauze that surrounded the illegal inserts squeaky-clean?

There has been near-universal condemnation of Capetillo for his role in the handwrap scandal, and justly so.

http://www.secondsout.com/columns/thomas-hauser/antonio-margarito-and-the-handwrap-issue

But I cant find the records containing the official testimony.

The transcript was published on this very site at the time.

Capetillo said words to this effect..... we did nothing wrong, I wrapped his hands the same way I have done for years, but I took the wrong pad from my training bag.

Well that would be the key difference, wouldn't it?

[Trinidad_Fan]

Why in hell would Cotto even entertain giving Cheato another payday? Cotto's enjoying a career renaissance, while Cheato is a washed-up, disgraced, one-eyed loser. I'm sure there's a car or something Cheato can wash for Cotto if he wants to earn some money.

[aboutfkntime]

You're talking about 3 different commissions and saying they are all the same

Kizer has nothing to do with Richardson catching Margarito because Kizer is from the Nevada commission and Richardson caught Margarito in California.

Capetillo testified that he accidentally used old knuckle pads that he pulled out from his bag.

Exactly. That is exactly what I am saying.

I am saying that OBVIOUSLY the processes that are used by the various commissions are clearly inadequate, in much the same way that their antiquated drug testing process is clearly inadequate.

Trinidads wraps were legal in other states, just not in New York, and even then they failed to catch him.

Tell me why you rate the NSAC higher than the incompetent CSAC and the even more incompetent NYSAC?

The " but Kizer said..... " excuse, is reaching badly imo.

Richardson > Kizer.

Nobody should be too surprised to hear that a guy who works in a gym has a much better understanding/instinct for the game than a guy who works in an office.

This is all in response to the " but Kizer said..... " excuse.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Exactly. That is exactly what I am saying.

I am saying that OBVIOUSLY the processes that are used by the various commissions are clearly inadequate, in much the same way that their antiquated drug testing process is clearly inadequate.

Trinidads wraps were legal in other states, just not in New York, and even then they failed to catch him.

Tell me why you rate the NSAC higher than the incompetent CSAC and the even more incompetent NYSAC?

The " but Kizer said..... " excuse, is reaching badly imo.

Richardson > Kizer.

Nobody should be too surprised to hear that a guy who works in a gym has a much better understanding/instinct for the game than a guy who works in an office.

This is all in response to the " but Kizer said..... " excuse.

How do you know that? That's merely conjecture.

Richardson and Kizer aren't connected because Kizer isn't in charge of the California commission. You aren't making any sense.

Kizer gave his take on what went on in the Cotto fight and Richardson has zero to do with that.