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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #181
    Originally posted by Lords
    Yea, Margarita calmly looked away as his trainer loaded his wraps. Pac demonstrated this beautifully in their 24/7.
    Read the article I posted from Thomas Hauser. Six renowned trainers including Pacquiao's own trainer said that he could have quite easily not known.

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    • aboutfkntime
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      #182
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      It's still just conjecture as is all of the case against Margarito using plaster against Cotto.

      Your basing your so called proof on very flimsy foundations.
      True, but I'm not using that as proof, I was just replying to the guy who said "but, Kizer said....".

      My point is, Kizer's opinion does not prove that Margarito didn't cheat.

      Kizer is saying " we followed the process, we checked ".

      Which is exactly what you would expect him to say.

      But CSAC/NYSAC checked Margs and Tito as well, and they passed them.

      The ONLY point I am making is Richardson > NYSAC/CSAC/Kizer/NSAC.

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        #183
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        You seem to base a lot of your argument on Nasim Richardson who was not even involved in the Cotto fight.

        What about Emmanuel Steward? He was the trainer of Kermit Cintron who fought Margarito before the Cotto fight. He didn't report anything wrong with Margarito's handwraps.
        You need to re-read the previous posts.

        I don't have an argument where I am attempting to prove that Margarito cheated..... I am replying to an argument which stated that because " Kizer said "..... Margarito was clean in the Cotto fight.

        Read back.

        What I am doing is discrediting ALL commission-based glove testing based on the fact that Richardson caught TWO illegal wrappings that had been CHECKED AND APPROVED BY TWO DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS.

        Kizer's opinion will not exonerate Margarito.

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          #184
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          Read the article I posted from Thomas Hauser. Six renowned trainers including Pacquiao's own trainer said that he could have quite easily not known.
          And one of them was Richardson iirc. That doesn't mean that he didn't know, just that it is possible that he may not have known.

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            #185
            Originally posted by Puya
            Who says is blood? Why Capetillo put those old pads? (you know the plaster ones) Why Margarito cheat on the Mosley fight where he was the favorite to win and not for Cotto fight where Cotto was the favorite to win??

            You can ignore this at all. No matter what you say it will not change the perceptive minds. your hate for Cotto (maybe Margarito Fan, maybe Puerto Rican hater) blinds you.
            Cotto-Margarito 1 took place in Nevada, where the NSAC provides the gauze to be used for the handwraps. Nothing shady took place that day. Cotto's people even saw Margarito get his hands wrapped before the fight.

            Am I a fan of either guy? Hardly. Just had to clear the air on this.

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            • Puya
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              #186
              Originally posted by Finito2K
              Cotto-Margarito 1 took place in Nevada, where the NSAC provides the gauze to be used for the handwraps. Nothing shady took place that day. Cotto's people even saw Margarito get his hands wrapped before the fight.

              Am I a fan of either guy? Hardly. Just had to clear the air on this.
              The issue was the pads that those provided gauze were covering.
              Last edited by Puya; 11-11-2015, 01:42 PM.

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              • Finito2K
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                #187
                Originally posted by Puya
                The issue was the pads that those provided gauze were covering.
                Wrong again. There was no "issue". No one from the NSAC or Team Cotto saw an issue with the way Margarito's hands were wrapped.

                Oh. FYI. 99.9% of all knuckle pads used in a handwrap are made using gauze.

                https://********/gViPfIsYbek

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                • Puya
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                  #188
                  Originally posted by Finito2K
                  Wrong again. There was no "issue". No one from the NSAC or Team Cotto saw an issue with the way Margarito's hands were wrapped.

                  Oh. FYI. 99.9% of all knuckle pads used in a handwrap are made using gauze.

                  https://********/gViPfIsYbek
                  Like in the Mosley fight aside ****m

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                  • Finito2K
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by Puya
                    Like in the Mosley fight aside ****m
                    I'm talking about Cotto-Margarito 1.

                    From the article I posted earlier:

                    Keith Kizer is confident the rules and procedures in Nevada prevent any irregularities during hand wrapping and putting on the gloves. “We have experienced inspectors not only watching the hands being wrapped, but also the gloves being put on,” Kizer said. “They feel the wraps and sign them*and then the gloves and sign them.”

                    One difference between Nevada and Calfornia is that Nevada provides the gauze for the hand wrappings, while California allows fighters to use their own gauze.

                    Speaking specifically about July, Kizer said, representatives from the Cotto camp were in Margarito’s dressing room during the entire wrapping of the hands. “They were in there from the beginning,” Kizer said. “Not only them but people from HBO, people from MGM, there are always a dozen or so people in the dressing room.

                    “I’m pleased with the process we have in Nevada,” Kizer said. “Not only does it stop anybody who tries to do something like that, it stops anybody who is thinking about doing it.”

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                    • Puya
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                      #190
                      Originally posted by Finito2K
                      I'm talking about Cotto-Margarito 1.

                      From the article I posted earlier:

                      Keith Kizer is confident the rules and procedures in Nevada prevent any irregularities during hand wrapping and putting on the gloves. “We have experienced inspectors not only watching the hands being wrapped, but also the gloves being put on,” Kizer said. “They feel the wraps and sign them*and then the gloves and sign them.”

                      One difference between Nevada and Calfornia is that Nevada provides the gauze for the hand wrappings, while California allows fighters to use their own gauze.

                      Speaking specifically about July, Kizer said, representatives from the Cotto camp were in Margarito’s dressing room during the entire wrapping of the hands. “They were in there from the beginning,” Kizer said. “Not only them but people from HBO, people from MGM, there are always a dozen or so people in the dressing room.

                      “I’m pleased with the process we have in Nevada,” Kizer said. “Not only does it stop anybody who tries to do something like that, it stops anybody who is thinking about doing it.”
                      Did you know that for the Mosley fight the one of his wraps was signed already when ****m ask them to re-wrap the hands and that's when the pad fell to the ground.

                      Last edited by Puya; 11-12-2015, 02:00 PM.

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