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Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View PostIt's still just conjecture as is all of the case against Margarito using plaster against Cotto.
Your basing your so called proof on very flimsy foundations.
My point is, Kizer's opinion does not prove that Margarito didn't cheat.
Kizer is saying " we followed the process, we checked ".
Which is exactly what you would expect him to say.
But CSAC/NYSAC checked Margs and Tito as well, and they passed them.
The ONLY point I am making is Richardson > NYSAC/CSAC/Kizer/NSAC.
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Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View PostYou seem to base a lot of your argument on Nasim Richardson who was not even involved in the Cotto fight.
What about Emmanuel Steward? He was the trainer of Kermit Cintron who fought Margarito before the Cotto fight. He didn't report anything wrong with Margarito's handwraps.
I don't have an argument where I am attempting to prove that Margarito cheated..... I am replying to an argument which stated that because " Kizer said "..... Margarito was clean in the Cotto fight.
Read back.
What I am doing is discrediting ALL commission-based glove testing based on the fact that Richardson caught TWO illegal wrappings that had been CHECKED AND APPROVED BY TWO DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS.
Kizer's opinion will not exonerate Margarito.
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Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View PostRead the article I posted from Thomas Hauser. Six renowned trainers including Pacquiao's own trainer said that he could have quite easily not known.
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Originally posted by Puya View PostWho says is blood? Why Capetillo put those old pads? (you know the plaster ones) Why Margarito cheat on the Mosley fight where he was the favorite to win and not for Cotto fight where Cotto was the favorite to win??
You can ignore this at all. No matter what you say it will not change the perceptive minds. your hate for Cotto (maybe Margarito Fan, maybe Puerto Rican hater) blinds you.
Am I a fan of either guy? Hardly. Just had to clear the air on this.
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Originally posted by Finito2K View PostCotto-Margarito 1 took place in Nevada, where the NSAC provides the gauze to be used for the handwraps. Nothing shady took place that day. Cotto's people even saw Margarito get his hands wrapped before the fight.
Am I a fan of either guy? Hardly. Just had to clear the air on this.Last edited by Puya; 11-11-2015, 01:42 PM.
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Originally posted by Puya View PostThe issue was the pads that those provided gauze were covering.
Oh. FYI. 99.9% of all knuckle pads used in a handwrap are made using gauze.
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Originally posted by Finito2K View PostWrong again. There was no "issue". No one from the NSAC or Team Cotto saw an issue with the way Margarito's hands were wrapped.
Oh. FYI. 99.9% of all knuckle pads used in a handwrap are made using gauze.
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Originally posted by Puya View PostLike in the Mosley fight aside ****m
From the article I posted earlier:
Keith Kizer is confident the rules and procedures in Nevada prevent any irregularities during hand wrapping and putting on the gloves. “We have experienced inspectors not only watching the hands being wrapped, but also the gloves being put on,” Kizer said. “They feel the wraps and sign them*and then the gloves and sign them.”
One difference between Nevada and Calfornia is that Nevada provides the gauze for the hand wrappings, while California allows fighters to use their own gauze.
Speaking specifically about July, Kizer said, representatives from the Cotto camp were in Margarito’s dressing room during the entire wrapping of the hands. “They were in there from the beginning,” Kizer said. “Not only them but people from HBO, people from MGM, there are always a dozen or so people in the dressing room.
“I’m pleased with the process we have in Nevada,” Kizer said. “Not only does it stop anybody who tries to do something like that, it stops anybody who is thinking about doing it.”
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Originally posted by Finito2K View PostI'm talking about Cotto-Margarito 1.
From the article I posted earlier:
Keith Kizer is confident the rules and procedures in Nevada prevent any irregularities during hand wrapping and putting on the gloves. “We have experienced inspectors not only watching the hands being wrapped, but also the gloves being put on,” Kizer said. “They feel the wraps and sign them*and then the gloves and sign them.”
One difference between Nevada and Calfornia is that Nevada provides the gauze for the hand wrappings, while California allows fighters to use their own gauze.
Speaking specifically about July, Kizer said, representatives from the Cotto camp were in Margarito’s dressing room during the entire wrapping of the hands. “They were in there from the beginning,” Kizer said. “Not only them but people from HBO, people from MGM, there are always a dozen or so people in the dressing room.
“I’m pleased with the process we have in Nevada,” Kizer said. “Not only does it stop anybody who tries to do something like that, it stops anybody who is thinking about doing it.”
Last edited by Puya; 11-12-2015, 02:00 PM.
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