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  • #51
    Originally posted by !WAR MARTINEZ! View Post
    your favorite fighters wouldent be undefeated (includes mawyeather too)
    I definitely agree.

    "Why weren't the best guys undefeated in the old days?"

    "Because they fought each other."

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
      Broner
      Byrd
      Ruiz
      Wilder
      Berto
      Ortiz
      Ghost
      Porter
      Alexander
      Sturm
      Etc
      Etc

      Honestly the list is endless,,, pretty every dude that win a paper title..
      Spot on, sir.

      I agree with that whole list.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
        and anyone who had a title at 147 since 2006-2008 and 2009-2015 cause none were going to beat Mayweather
        honestly i think if it were only 8 titles, floyd woulda spent most of his time at lightweight/135. and probably dominated. maybe stuck a foot into 147 waters around 09'10 if he was still able to generate money

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Bram View Post
          He definitely would have, but you would have taken all of those guys - Lopez, Carbajal, Gonzalez, Alvarez, Sanchez... - all of them would have had to go up to 112 and if it's just one champion, I don't think any of them get by Johnson. I definitely think there're too many 'world champions', but I don't have a problem with the number of weight classes. Lopez may've been the most technically sound guy I have ever seen and had we still had 8 weight classes, we would have never gotten to see him at his absolute best.
          lopez skills was beautiful man.......

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          • #55
            I don't know if he could have made 147, but maybe Terry Norris. He was one of the best 154's of all time, but he didn't have the bets chin and if he had to go up and compete against Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins, Julian Jackson, Gerald McClellan - he doesn't win a championship.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by B Phontain View Post
              lopez skills was beautiful man.......
              He was fantastic! In your avatar, he's throwing that uppercut, that man had a SWEET counter uppercut. One of the coolest knockouts I've ever seen was against Ala Villamor. Lopez countered a southpaw jab with an uppercut and stepped around and Villamor was out on a delayed reaction.

              It was a JOY to watch that man fight.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Bram View Post
                I don't know if he could have made 147, but maybe Terry Norris. He was one of the best 154's of all time, but he didn't have the bets chin and if he had to go up and compete against Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins, Julian Jackson, Gerald McClellan - he doesn't win a championship.
                He probably would have had to go for 147. In that case, he would have faced Whitaker, Trinidad, Quartey. Now that would have been fun to see!

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by anthonydavid11 View Post
                  If this whole time, boxing only had one world champion with eight weight classes, which fighters would be least likely to have ever become a champion?

                  Obviously this could be a huge list.

                  With the extra divisions gone, it really gets limiting.

                  I don't think Carlos Quintana would have ever been a champion. He only won the WBO version and made zero defenses.

                  I honestly don't think Sven Ottke would have ever won a title either, much less defended one.

                  Eddie Hopson would have never got a title either.

                  I think Trinidad would have been a champion for sure, but he wouldn't have gotten such an easy title win in a shot Maurice Blocker. Instead he might have had to face Ike Quartey which was a dream match up.

                  I don't see Michael Bentt becoming heavyweight champion either. Morrison probably wouldn't but I wouldn't count him out.

                  John Ruiz definitely would have never got there without multiple titles.
                  It's silly to even think about it. It would literally be nearly every champion for a decade now. Take away 3 out of every 4 champions, in every division since the WBO and IBF became recognised (about 2004 or something from memory) and you're left with very, very, very few champions comparatively.

                  It's a much, much shorter list to say the guys who are likely to have been champions because the vast majority who are now able to call themselves champions never would have been in the era of 1 world champion. Even many of the good ones.

                  For instance, it's unlikely anyone other than Mayweather would have been champ at 147 for the last decade, so no Pac, no Bradley, Marg, Cotto, etc etc etc. Just an example, not getting into who would beat who...it's just an example.

                  It's a very interesting thought though. Really just goes to show what it was once like all those years ago when boxing only had one champ per division (even when the world title split into WBC and WBA, it took a long time for people to recognise the two) and how tough it would have been to face off every top contender...because every top contender back then is basically every 'world champion' today.

                  Ridiculous really when you think about it. There is no other sport in the world so absurd.

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                  • #59
                    At heavyweight:

                    David Haye
                    Oleg Maskaev
                    Sam Peter
                    Shannon Briggs
                    Deontay Wilder
                    Oleg Maskaev
                    Sergey Lyakhovich
                    Evander Holyfield (would never have beaten Lennox)
                    George Foreman in the 1990s
                    Chris Byrd
                    Tommy Morrison

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by BennyST View Post
                      It's silly to even think about it. It would literally be nearly every champion for a decade now. Take away 3 out of every 4 champions, in every division since the WBO and IBF became recognised (about 2004 or something from memory) and you're left with very, very, very few champions comparatively.

                      It's a much, much shorter list to say the guys who are likely to have been champions because the vast majority who are now able to call themselves champions never would have been in the era of 1 world champion. Even many of the good ones.

                      For instance, it's unlikely anyone other than Mayweather would have been champ at 147 for the last decade, so no Pac, no Bradley, Marg, Cotto, etc etc etc. Just an example, not getting into who would beat who...it's just an example.



                      It's a very interesting thought though. Really just goes to show what it was once like all those years ago when boxing only had one champ per division (even when the world title split into WBC and WBA, it took a long time for people to recognise the two) and how tough it would have been to face off every top contender...because every top contender back then is basically every 'world champion' today.

                      Ridiculous really when you think about it. There is no other sport in the world so absurd.
                      Haha. Yes. Great observations. And it is absurd. Think of the fights that would have happened that never got made. With so many titles, ducking is quite easy.

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