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  • HeroBando
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    #71
    Originally posted by nielon
    I was not talking about "popularity" at any moment. Popularity means nothing without the respect for your accomplishments> (GGG's exact situation) (exactly why I am NOT YET a GGG fan, even though I watch all his fights and like him) In fact, What I am talking about and the main reason why I am NOT YET a GGG fan is due to his "LACK OF ACCOMPLISHMENT" while being tagged as "The best MW in the world" "GGG is HOLDING ALL THE CARDS" (As you said) I am not a fan of Canelo either but I respect his RESUME and accomplishments something I can not do yet for GGG. Canelo at 25 yrs old has a way better resume, record breaking numbers etc.... While GGG at 34 and his management STILL trying to make him a superstar while acting like they have leverage against the ONLY TWO fighters that can help GGG reach to TOP LEVEL business wise. Its not GGG fault for his lack of better opposition, AGREED, Its his MANAGEMENT'S FAULT for refusing fights while pulling the "A-SIDE" excuse against (Ward), "the Popularity excuse" against (Lara), "getting all belts now maybe later" to a 50 yrs (Hopkins)..... Thats bad managament!!!
    He wasn't offered fights vs Lara or Hopkins or even close. And we know about Wards joke offer, his mgmt would have to be beyond incompetent to sign that

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    • nielon
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      #72
      Originally posted by Steve plunger
      Well is that golovkins fault because of haymon and HBO.....lol...and it isnt his fault neither canelo or cotto wants to face him in the middleweight division .....look son you don't like golovkin I get that.......but to speak absolute bollocks in regards to him not facing anybody.....it's not golovkin refusing to fight at 160 is it......but your bringing that as your argument...and the silly hype PPV talk...Roman Gonzales is the p4p fighter in the world but he is world renowned.......cotto is head and shoulders above canelo in regards to stature and achievement.....canelo has fought 2 all time greats.. 1 is mayweather who absolutely schooled him and 2 is Mosley who was totally finished as a world force....who else is there Austin trout, jospeito Lopez , Ryan Rhodes lol.... So don't make it sound that canelo is some kind of all time p4p champion ...i like golovkins style but to be fanboy would be somebody who talks about how popular a person is ...your past comments have shown that lol
      Originally posted by HeroBando
      Stop your crying. I was right, you were wrong, get used to it. He's got 7 Ring top 10 MW wins, nobody else has more than 2.

      The Ring Rankings or in other words "Golden Boy Rankings" are a joke lolol

      Can you please name the 7 Ring Top MW wins for GGG???- (I only see Geale and Lemiuex)

      Ring MW rankings >> http://******.craveonline.com/ratings/middleweight

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      • Progrssive_Jedi
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        #73
        Canelo is not an Aztec Warrior, he is Ariana Grande

        Its bad enough Cotto/Canelo are fighting for 1 MW belt at 155. Now Canelo wants a shot at picking up 3 at this mythical 155 division.

        155 is the "I'm a ***** and I'm scared of GGG division.



        Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
        If the goal is mass appeal then GGG is going to have to fight at 155. I don't see how GGG fighting some scrub for the vacant title helps him at all. In order to get the big money fight he's been yearning for he has to bow down to the Canelo/Cotto winner.
        Naw, he isn't gonna let that little ***** Canelo have a shot at 3 MW belts at 155.

        I don't see him bowing, and it's Canelo who is taking mad heat for being a *****.

        GGG needs to sit tight and let Canelo show the world he is a scared little red headed *****.

        Originally posted by about.thousands
        This is a terrible strategy by K2 and team GGG. The main complaint of GGG is that he fights nobodies, his resume is weak. K2 and team GGG are doing nothing to change that. So lets say Cotto/Canelo vacates, GGG picks up the title, beats Tureano Johnson and beats the winner of Lee/Saunders. People will still say his resume is weak. None of those fighters do anything to stem that criticism. So now he's sitting there as the unified champion. Who does he fight next? This path to gather all the belts does nothing to make GGG great. If Cotto/Canelo vacates K2 and team GGG needs to come up with another strategy because Johnson, Saunders/Lee is not the path to greatness. And again, after Johnson, Lee/Saunders, who does he fight next?
        As if beating Canelo is suddenly going to shut up those critics.

        And as Unified, Quillin, Eubanks, Canelo, Lara, Andrade, all of them will be begging for a shot.

        K2 knows as Unified they will have the pick of the litter.

        And Canel is the one under pressure to fight GGG and stop being Ariana Grande.

        Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
        Personally I don't think Canelo fights GGG for at least 2 more years. GGG is already 33. Time isn't on GGG's side. No way Canelo fights this dude while he's still in his prime.
        Sure, Canelo may try to wait him out.

        But by then his career will have been tainted by this ***** move.

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        • HeroBando
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          #74
          Originally posted by nielon
          The Ring Rankings or in other words "Golden Boy Rankings" are a joke lolol

          Can you please name the 7 Ring Top MW wins for GGG???- (I only see Geale and Lemiuex)

          Ring MW rankings >> http://******.craveonline.com/ratings/middleweight
          They were top 10 ranked when he beat them dumb****. Lol you understand thats what matters, not what they're ranked years later? Too complicated? For example Cotto's best win at 154, the one legged rabbi, is unranked at SWW

          Lemieux, Murray, Macklin, Geale, Rubio, Stevens, Proksa. At least 5 of these were in TBRB or ESPN rankings.

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          • nielon
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            #75
            Originally posted by HeroBando
            He wasn't offered fights vs Lara or Hopkins or even close. And we know about Wards joke offer, his mgmt would have to be beyond incompetent to sign that
            Dude you are delusional, YOU DONT KNOW **** ABOUT BOXING -(In my Mayweather's voice) he was offered a fight with Hopkins and Loeffler turned him down saying "Hopkins MAYBE down the line in a few years" (Hopkins is 50 yrs old) ..... The Ward fight was on the table and "normal" "sane" fans of boxing know what happened there.... Catchweight 50-50, Im the A-side, Excuses.....

            Hopkins "Im ready for GGG" >>> http://www.boxingscene.com/bernard-h...olovkin--93357

            K2 on Hopkins excuses >>> http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins...ns-bout--93549

            K2 on Hopkins "Could be future foe, not now to a 50 yrs old LEGEND"

            Tom Loeffler, promoter of IBO/WBA middleweight champion Gennady "GGG" Golovkib, says 50-year-old living legend Bernard Hopkins is not on their agenda at the moment - but that could change in the future, although Hopkins is not expected to fight for too much longer. Hopkins last fight came in November, when he lost a twelve round unanimous decision to division ruler Sergey Kovalev. The 27-year veteran (55-7-2, 32 KOs) would like to get Golovkin (33-0, 30 KOs) in the ring at a catch-weight in early 2016. Hopkins appears to be wiling to move down as low as the super middleweight limit of 168-pounds.

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            • BattlingNelson
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              #76
              Canelo will eventually grow out of his 155 lb class. So I'd say that GGG should just take the vacated belt. He will then be in the drivers seat for all MW title fights in future.

              Besides a Canelo-GGG fight will also be better in the future when both are 160 lb'ers anyway.

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              • nielon
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                #77
                Originally posted by HeroBando
                They were top 10 ranked when he beat them dumb****. Lol you understand thats what matters, not what they're ranked years later? Too complicated? For example Cotto's best win at 154, the one legged rabbi, is unranked at SWW

                Lemieux, Murray, Macklin, Geale, Rubio, Stevens, Proksa. At least 5 of these were in TBRB or ESPN rankings.
                Lemieux, Murray, Macklin, Geale, Rubio, Stevens, Proksa. At least 5 of these were in TBRB or ESPN rankings.[/QUOTE]

                Proksa? Macklin? Rubio??.... Stevens?? Murray???

                Those are all A-class fighters. They will all be remembered as GOOD opponents in boxing right??? Shows how WEAK the MW division has been and is at the moment. GGG THE BEST MW IN THE WORLD IN THE WEAKEST MW DIVISION OF ALL TIME. Respect to GGG!!!

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                • Progrssive_Jedi
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                  #78
                  Is this guy Really suggesting GGG fight H-hop

                  How is it gonna look GGG breaking a 50 year old down.

                  The desperation of his haters crack me up.

                  Lara, he yammering Jr.MW.

                  Lara called out everyone, dude doesn't get big fights just because he yells the loudest.

                  GGG beat Rubio to earn this shot at the WBC belt.

                  Why the **** should they change paths now.

                  Canelo wants to be a *****, then he'll be a *****.

                  Only a few **** faces buy his I'm not a MW argument.

                  Originally posted by nielon
                  Dude you are delusional, YOU DONT KNOW **** ABOUT BOXING -(In my Mayweather's voice) he was offered a fight with Hopkins and Loeffler turned him down saying "Hopkins MAYBE down the line in a few years" (Hopkins is 50 yrs old) ..... The Ward fight was on the table and "normal" "sane" fans of boxing know what happened there.... Catchweight 50-50, Im the A-side, Excuses.....

                  Hopkins "Im ready for GGG" >>> http://www.boxingscene.com/bernard-h...olovkin--93357

                  K2 on Hopkins excuses >>> http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins...ns-bout--93549

                  K2 on Hopkins "Could be future foe, not now to a 50 yrs old LEGEND"

                  http://www.boxingscene.com/gggs-prom...not-now--93612

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                  • HeroBando
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by nielon
                    Dude you are delusional, YOU DONT KNOW **** ABOUT BOXING -(In my Mayweather's voice) he was offered a fight with Hopkins and Loeffler turned him down saying "Hopkins MAYBE down the line in a few years" (Hopkins is 50 yrs old) ..... The Ward fight was on the table and "normal" "sane" fans of boxing know what happened there.... Catchweight 50-50, Im the A-side, Excuses.....

                    Hopkins "Im ready for GGG" >>> http://www.boxingscene.com/bernard-h...olovkin--93357

                    K2 on Hopkins excuses >>> http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins...ns-bout--93549

                    K2 on Hopkins "Could be future foe, not now to a 50 yrs old LEGEND"

                    http://www.boxingscene.com/gggs-prom...not-now--93612'
                    Being "very willing to entertain the idea of facing" is not an offer, dumba$$. "Future foe" is just being polite, why would they fight a 50 year old who just got whitewashed? It'd be disgusting.

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                    • HeroBando
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by nielon

                      Proksa? Macklin? Rubio??.... Stevens?? Murray???

                      Those are all A-class fighters. They will all be remembered as GOOD opponents in boxing right??? Shows how WEAK the MW division has been and is at the moment. GGG THE BEST MW IN THE WORLD IN THE WEAKEST MW DIVISION OF ALL TIME. Respect to GGG!!!

                      That's factual, you can go back and check they were Ring top 10. And let me know if anybody else has more than 2 in that weak division. So you finally understand I was right, you wrong? Hence all the tears and anger?

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