Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Canelo Can Eclipse Mayweather, Pacquiao

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  • Zaroku
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    #41
    Originally posted by Steve plunger
    If he don't learn the english language he will not cross over to superstardom and that's a 100 percent.....you can't selll yourself to the world if you don't speak the worlds universal language.....yes he is big in Mexico for sure but to be a an Ali ,leonard,tyson,mayweather,pacquaio you need cross over appeal.....how can he crossover to the mainstream if he can't sell himself.....secondly he would need to change trainers to take him up a level although nice guys they can't really teach anything more he don't know already....he needs a vast improvement on his foot speed and from what I see in his traning he is still doing the same routine...that was one of the main reasons why floyd completely schooled him...he lacks agilty and movement to become a real all time great
    Exactly!!! Gotta speak English. I am thinking to quit my job and get paid to teach Japanese fighters English & Spanish. Or be their translator in Vegas. Or the states. Unfortunately there isn't enough need for this, because many Japanese fighters don't get it. Not speaking English will hurt you. If PAC only spoke Tagalog, he would never be a superstar.

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    • aboutfkntime
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      #42
      Originally posted by lopez36
      canelo is popular, but i believe he eill be bigger, i mean he proved his popularity the night he gought lopez snd filled the arena and that same night in the same city was the big chavez/martinez fight snd canelo still brought people to the fight,this isnt about being the best ever, its sbout being a superstar snd i belive he will be huge
      Yea, he will. I dont believe he will eclipse Mayweather/Pac/Hoya, either in success or stardom..... but he will be the biggest star of the current crop.

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      • al1bar
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        #43
        Besides being a dominant boxer, I think you have to be an interesting character outside the ring. FMJ, Pac, Ali, Tyson, etc. are all interesting people. Canelo seems plain. GGG has personality though. Guys who aren't even dominant boxers become famous for their antics, like Hamed, Magic Man, Hector Camacho, etc.

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        • Progrssive_Jedi
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          #44
          And he isn't ready for GGG either?

          Canelo isn't doing his people's proud with all this whining.

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          • Doctor_Tenma
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            #45
            Originally posted by Vilicious86
            Nope. They were great fighters, he isn't great. Sorry.
            All that needs to be said

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            • SlySlickSmooth
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              #46
              Canelo is lucky he's a star in the social media era.

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              • Johnwoo8686
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                #47
                Originally posted by Jayallday9
                Canelo will never eclipse Floyd or Pac simply because he isn't a great fighter. I like him and he's a good fighter but the "it factor" is the marketing machine promoting him and when it comes to him fighting the elite, they can't rely on cheating the scales forever..
                This ^^^ Canelo simply isn't talented enough to eclipse Mayweather or Pacquiao. Oscar is banking on Canelo being good looking and Mexican as the reason why Canelo will become big. In order to be a huge star you have to be talented first and foremost.

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                • El Gitano
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by j0zef
                  He's young enough and popular enough already that he may eclipse them in popularity.... as a boxer, we'll see. If he gets beat by Cotto, nope.
                  I doubt he'll eclipse Mayweather in popularity, he doesn't speak English and honestly, his personality is a bit boring.

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                  • MC Hammer
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                    #49
                    who can he beat to make this happen? Both Pac and Floyd beat delahoya. As far as stardom Cotto (especially at this age) nor Golovkin are close to de la hoya. Too many natural 168 fighters would beat him, unless my eyes deceive me; so I don't see it happening.

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                    • Corelone
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by PrBoxing88
                      Felix Verdejo will be bigger than Canelo, he already packs everywhere he fights by himself, if he keep winning to better opponents by the age of 25 he will bigger than Canelo.
                      You might be right, but I doubt it. More Mexicans than Puerto Ricans for one, but Verdejo has problems. The odds are stacking against him. Bad hands and he's still in the development stage. What happens when he fights a guy who won't go away and punches back?

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