Comments Thread For: Andre Ward-Alexander Brand on Cotto-Canelo PPV

[Jubei]

His biggest flaw is his cowardly ways and his complacency . Why is he squatting in a VERY weak division searching for more stragglers , when you already beat the top two guys in that division handily ? Why won't u move up as there's no one left who even believes anyone in that division can beat u . Your already too strong and too good for 160 , but now your looking south for more bodies to plow , hiding behind the excuse that your chasing ephemeral straps ?

IMO GGG is a formidable talent who complacent where he is , therefore refuses to seek fights that will cannonize his talent .

So I think his biggest flaw is that I have more confidence in his skills , than he has in himself .

Whats so hard that he wants to be the lineal and undisputed MW champ and wants to collect all the major belts? There's unfinished business in his own division, he is mandatory for one of the biggest fight in boxing period (Canelo) and you want him to move to a dead division?

Quillin if he grows some balls, Lee and specially Canelo are great matchups, much better than the guys sitting at 168, i know most of the guys at 168, almost nobody there would fight GGG or would make a great matchup. You probably have no idea and think DeGale, Abraham and the Dirrels would fight him but youre dead wrong, since you DKSAB.

[SugarRaRobinson]

Whats so hard that he wants to be the lineal and undisputed MW champ and wants to collect all the major belts? There's unfinished business in his own division, he is mandatory for one of the biggest fight in boxing period (Canelo) and you want him to move to a dead division?

Quillin if he grows some balls, Lee and specially Canelo are great matchups, much better than the guys sitting at 168, i know most of the guys at 168, almost nobody there would fight GGG or would make a great matchup. You probably have no idea and think DeGale, Abraham and the Dirrels would fight him but youre dead wrong, since you DKSAB.

Quillen , Lee ???? Are u really posting your opinions or practicing your standup routine?
Quillen has a glass jaw , and is scared to death of GGG and is under Haymon . I just can't waste anymore energy on u because I clearly have more confidence in GGG than u do , and I'm not a huge fan like u are .

I get it , your looking to keep GGG in that safe haven while I'm looking for the best fights . I've see your kind over and over again on this site . All u wanna do is shield GGG from any imminent danger . And your so desperate to do so you'll even stoop as low as to PRETEND that the likes of Lee , Quillen and Canelo are game opposition for him while also presumptuously claiming that no one at 168 would fight him if he did move there .

This may be the most desperate justification of gggs complacency that has ever graced my eyes and ears .

[j0zef]

His biggest flaw is his cowardly ways and his complacency . Why is he squatting in a VERY weak division searching for more stragglers , when you already beat the top two guys in that division handily ? Why won't u move up as there's no one left who even believes anyone in that division can beat u . Your already too strong and too good for 160 , but now your looking south for more bodies to plow , hiding behind the excuse that your chasing ephemeral straps ?

Actually, SMW is a weaker division than MW.
And he's not looking for stragglers. He's looking for Lineal MW champion.
And he didn't beat the two top guys in the division. He only beat one of them. The rest have ducked him for the last 3 years (Felix/Martinez/Cotto& now Canelo). He's still trying to get one of them into the ring.

Why is he looking south? As far I know, the only person he called out who's "south" of him is Floyd. You know, the guy who was undefeated and undisputed #1 P4P fighter in the world. Is that a bad thing? Is that what a Coward does?

His excuse is that he's looking for straps? I think that's a good excuse. As a matter of fact, being declared a champion in virtually any sport is a good thing.

IMO GGG is a formidable talent who complacent where he is , therefore refuses to seek fights that will cannonize his talent .

So I think his biggest flaw is that I have more confidence in his skills , than he has in himself .

........ yeah.... the guy who has called out everyone is lacking confidence in his skills. The guy who said he doesn't care who he fights, as long as that person holds a belt.

[nacho daddy]

Actually, SMW is a weaker division than MW.
And he's not looking for stragglers. He's looking for Lineal MW champion.
And he didn't beat the two top guys in the division. He only beat one of them. The rest have ducked him for the last 3 years (Felix/Martinez/Cotto& now Canelo). He's still trying to get one of them into the ring.

Why is he looking south? As far I know, the only person he called out who's "south" of him is Floyd. You know, the guy who was undefeated and undisputed #1 P4P fighter in the world. Is that a bad thing? Is that what a Coward does?

His excuse is that he's looking for straps? I think that's a good excuse. As a matter of fact, being declared a champion in virtually any sport is a good thing.


........ yeah.... the guy who has called out everyone is lacking confidence in his skills. The guy who said he doesn't care who he fights, as long as that person holds a belt.

mental ward at 6ft tall will get in the ring against a 39 year old pizza delivery man and weigh 190 lbs on fight night. and people here think GGG at 5'9 and 170 lbs and ward fighting is a fair fight

[Progrssive_Jedi]

you can't be that ******.

Are you kidding me, he came into that fight weighing about the same.

The 30 day weight would be meaningful if it was 180.

GGG didn't lose weight as quick for Geale, but he still came in lighter than Canelo mist his fight.

He was 165 thirty days out for Lemieux.

Canelo is 168 thirty days out for Cotto.

All proves my point.

GGG fights around 170.

Canelo fight 170.

Same ****ing size.

Ward just signed to fight Kovalev.

By the end of 2016, Ward will be P4P #1, and he will have eclipsed Golovkins entire career in 1 fight

Who is Golovkin fighting next ?

Oh, because GGG will be doing nothing by then.

Ward is fighting horrible fighters, but you defend him. Telling.

[SugarRaRobinson]

Whats so hard that he wants to be the lineal and undisputed MW champ and wants to collect all the major belts? There's unfinished business in his own division, he is mandatory for one of the biggest fight in boxing period (Canelo) and you want him to move to a dead division?

Quillin if he grows some balls, Lee and specially Canelo are great matchups, much better than the guys sitting at 168, i know most of the guys at 168, almost nobody there would fight GGG or would make a great matchup. You probably have no idea and think DeGale, Abraham and the Dirrels would fight him but youre dead wrong, since you DKSAB.

And stop using that excuse that his true purpose and goal is chasing those ephemeral straps at 160 when u know damn well if Froch announced today that he wants GGG , GGG would then cease and desist his trivial pursuit and sing the contract today at 168 with NO problem . If Froch loses and then wanted a rematch , GGG would grant him one without delay again .

So let's be clear ; GGG chasing ephemeral straps and trivial pursuits is nothing more than a thinly disguised cover to AVOID WARD

[SugarRaRobinson]

........ yeah.... the guy who has called out everyone is lacking confidence in his skills. The guy who said he doesn't care who he fights, as long as that person holds a belt.

Does froch still hold any belts ? and if so i also know Wards holds more .
Anyone from 154 to 168 , what happened to that ? Why the 164 exception for Ward?

[DLX]

Why are the pretend Ward stans still posting about GGG? The same guys that called G opponents cans are defending this lol? I still don't believe Ward will ever fight Kovalev. He will find a way out of it. Kovalev ends him. Ward can't box Krusher on the outside, and doesn't have the power to keep him off him. Krusher will brutally end the fight.

[Bandman]

You should ask a guy that has been in the ring with both Ward and GGG. Actually the guy that dropped Ward, almost knocked him out. Darnell Boone, ask him who he thinks has better skills and would win the fight, you'll be surprised.

Which flaws does GGG have in your opinion?

Boone also dropped Kovalev and gave him his toughest fight in his career. oh yeah he also TKO'd stevenson. safe to say that guy can crack and is arguably the best "journeyman" ever.

[j0zef]

Does froch still hold any belts ? and if so i also know Wards holds more .

Two problems with that statement. First, he was chasing both Ward and Froch when no title holders or other decent names would take a fight with him. That was in first half of 2015. (Here's the link in case you're curious)
Ward said he wants a couple of tuneups, so they focused on Froch (who was more popular anyway)
Second, fights with both Froch and Ward have nothing to do with belts. Golovkin is a MW and said he wants to unify all MW belts - he said this back in 2012. As a matter of fact, a fight with Ward at 164 would DEFINITELY not have the belt on the line. He wanted to unify MW belts.

You make it sound like he's still chasing Froch or Chavez. He has said he's not interested in Chavez Jr back in March. Ward stopped being appealing after he got decent fights at his weight class.

Anyone from 154 to 168 , what happened to that ? Why the 164 exception for Ward?

That was more than 3 years ago. (again, here's a link in case you don't believe me) Things change. For example, in 2009, Ward said he will be the heavyweight champ by the age of 32. Instead, at the age of 31 he was chasing a guy in a division lower than him.


Since you didn't quote the rest of my statement, I hope that means you agree with it :-)