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Be honest, do GGG fans really think he can beat Ward and why?

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  • #71
    The Ward fans are the ones that get emotional about this fight. Us GGG fans are calm and confident in GGG's fighting skills. I think GGG would knock Ward out. Ward has a 71 inch reach while GGG has a 70 inch reach so reach is not a factor. GGG has the better jab. Ward has been knocked down and hurt while GGG has never even been hurt or staggered in his whole career. GGG has great boxing ability that is overshadowed by his amazing KO record. GGG can box with Ward at long range. Ward is a converted southpaw with a great left and a mediocre right. GGG is deadly with both hands. Ward is no big puncher and has nothing to threaten the iron jawed GGG with. GGG has the power to knock Ward out. At close range GGG knocks opponents out with body blows. Ward can't do that. I think GGG can give up 8 pounds to Ward and knock him out or win a ud. Ward is a skilled boxer but so is GGG. GGG almost never even loses a round and has never been in a close fight.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by boliodogs View Post
      The Ward fans are the ones that get emotional about this fight. Us GGG fans are calm and confident in GGG's fighting skills. I think GGG would knock Ward out. Ward has a 71 inch reach while GGG has a 70 inch reach so reach is not a factor. GGG has the better jab. Ward has been knocked down and hurt while GGG has never even been hurt or staggered in his whole career. GGG has great boxing ability that is overshadowed by his amazing KO record. GGG can box with Ward at long range. Ward is a converted southpaw with a great left and a mediocre right. GGG is deadly with both hands. Ward is no big puncher and has nothing to threaten the iron jawed GGG with. GGG has the power to knock Ward out. At close range GGG knocks opponents out with body blows. Ward can't do that. I think GGG can give up 8 pounds to Ward and knock him out or win a ud. Ward is a skilled boxer but so is GGG. GGG almost never even loses a round and has never been in a close fight.

      That's what im talking about a true breakdown

      To be fair GGG hasn't lost Many rounds or been in a close fight because he hasn't fought any elite or near p4p guys yet....He hasn't even fought the other top middleweights yet like Lee, Quillen though I'd def favor him over them.

      He has not faced any one on the level of Ward, Froch, or Kessler to truly access his talent....he is a beast though

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      • #73
        Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
        That's what im talking about a true breakdown

        To be fair GGG hasn't lost Many rounds or been in a close fight because he hasn't fought any elite or near p4p guys yet....He hasn't even fought the other top middleweights yet like Lee, Quillen though I'd def favor him over them.

        He has not faced any one on the level of Ward, Froch, or Kessler to truly access his talent....he is a beast though
        What makes you think Ward is still on that level? People assume he is for some reason, there's a lot of blind faith placed in him, the ultimate fantasy fight guy now.

        Anyhow, on the fight...Ward would start out trying to box on the backfoot and get hunted down. Then he'd try to clinch, hold and work the inside against Golovkin. How he fares would depend on what the referee is willing to allow.

        It doesn't really matter, because I don't think we see either of them again at 168lbs.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
          What makes you think Ward is still on that level? People assume he is for some reason, there's a lot of blind faith placed in him, the ultimate fantasy fight guy now.

          Anyhow, on the fight...Ward would start out trying to box on the backfoot and get hunted down. Then he'd try to clinch, hold and work the inside against Golovkin.

          It doesn't really matter, because I don't think we see either of them again at 168lbs.
          Until someone proves otherwise.....duh....because he proved it, and is still undefeated



          GGG hasn't yet on that level...its not that complex to decipher bro

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          • #75
            Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
            Until someone proves otherwise.....duh....because he proved it, and is still undefeated

            GGG hasn't yet on that level...its not that complex to decipher bro
            In 2011...it's nearly 2016 man. A lot of fighters had good wins back then.

            You don't stay at the top by not fighting, not in rankings or physically.

            Who knows how he matches up against the best of 168 today never mind 175, what I saw against a bloated Paul Smith at 172 didn't look that clever.

            Let's see him against someone in the top 5 of a division before we talk of the old Ward.

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            • #76
              Ward has the better jab and inside/outside game...this is a bad match up for Triple G and by requesting a 164 catch weight you're essentially conceding to your opponents skill level and advantages...

              Other than that Triple G beats everyone else...

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
                In 2011...it's nearly 2016 man. A lot of fighters had good wins back then.

                You don't stay at the top by not fighting, not in rankings or physically.

                Who knows how he matches up against the best of 168 today never mind 175, what I saw against a bloated Paul Smith at 172 didn't look that clever.

                Let's see him against someone in the top 5 of a division before we talk of the old Ward.
                OK I'll let you have that on ward.

                He has only 3 fights in the past 3 years...let's assume he fell off even though he is 31, fixed his shoulder n has been in 0 wars, and stayed in shape year round


                If we can assume that for ward.... we can also assume GGG isn't elite or p4p yet because he hasn't face the Comp to prove it...this year, 2011 or 34 fights in


                Ward has 28 fights but his resume ****s on GGG

                He is undoubtedly more proven on the A class level career vs career

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                  People get all emotional when this subject comes up, especially GGG die hard fans

                  I like both fighters, different styles but the best in their divisions


                  He is a good fighter but his resume isn't amazing


                  He is easy to hit on the elite level, has good skills and good jab


                  If the fight was at 164-170 I just don't see GGG beating Ward


                  Ward is taller, longer reach, better on the inside, has a better jab, is probably physically stronger. The only thing GGG has on him is power and a growing fan base


                  IMO Ward clearly beat him because he can fight any where in the ring and he adapts mid fight better than anyone not named Mayweather.


                  I explained my case. Whats you guys position
                  I love GGG and think his style is very refreshing for the fans. But I don't think he can beat Ward. Ward is a whole different animal compared to anyone who is in the middleweight division right now.

                  GGG's best bet is to stay at middleweight unify all titles and become the undisputed middleweight champion then move up and take your loss to Ward.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
                    What makes you think Ward is still on that level? People assume he is for some reason, there's a lot of blind faith placed in him, the ultimate fantasy fight guy now.

                    Anyhow, on the fight...Ward would start out trying to box on the backfoot and get hunted down. Then he'd try to clinch, hold and work the inside against Golovkin. How he fares would depend on what the referee is willing to allow.

                    It doesn't really matter, because I don't think we see either of them again at 168lbs.
                    I don't know... to be honest, I have no idea why fanatic GGG fans state that GGG would do this and that, when there's no empirical proof relating to the weights they're claiming.

                    That's like saying Danny Garcia, without a doubt, who had cleaned the 140 division, will have no problem beating anybody decisively at 147. As therealpugilist had mentioned, GGG hasn't fought IDEAL elite level yet. Those levels exist! Why do GGG fans get so insecure about this realistic approach in either weight class or skill. It's not intended to put down GGG, it's a matter of what most of us real boxing fans call common sense. I mean I have interest in seeing GGG further his necessity to acquire all the belts at 160. Let's see that. But to say he would do this to Froch, or Ward, or etc.. is complete nonsense... Again, Hagler had already fought 3-4 undisputed 160 champions by the age of 28, and then look at his retirement record. GGG has only fought Geale, and vacant belt win for Lemieux. If people want to say that Lee, Quillin, or Jacobs are the same as those last 3 mentioned then so be it... because I know Quillin would put Geale to sleep with the same power he almost put Lee to sleep in the first round or what Cotto did to Geale...

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                    • #80
                      People have said GGG hasn't done anything at middleweight yet, so wonder why people are asking GGG to fight Ward already? Let GGG fight winner of Canelo and Cotto first maybe?
                      And maybe GGG can think of fighting Ward, when they are p4p 1 and 2 respectively with GGG no1 and Ward no2. Maybe in 2 years time maybe.

                      But do people think Floyd can beat GGG at middleweight?

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