Does GGG Belong In The Higher Weight Classes?

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

he is just fine where he is, he can move up after 2 more fights, after he beats the Jacobs quillen winner he may move up

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Some do, some don't.

If they do move up it's always because of weight issues or money - they can get better paydays by moving up than by staying put.

No fighter ever turned away from big money fights in his own division and moved up to fight tougher, heavier opponents, for less money, just because he wanted to prove his courage or thought he needed a better "resume"

GGG has no problem making 160 and and that's where the big fights and the money is for him.

Expecting him to move up now, or criticising him for not doing it, just isn't reasonable.

Golovkin hasn't fought a single fight at 160 that would generate more money than a fight against Andre Ward would. That's where the fallacy comes into your thinking.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

GGG is usually around 165-168 on fight night. 160 is where he belongs. At middleweight, he is powerful and a beast. At 168, he would look small. At 175, he wouldn't be nearly as effective. GGG should stay right where he is.

[OnePunch]

Golovkin hasn't fought a single fight at 160 that would generate more money than a fight against Andre Ward would. That's where the fallacy comes into your thinking.

the Cotto-Canelo winner would likely pay 2-3 times (or more) of what a Ward fight might generate. GGG isnt going anywhere until he gets that fight or the winner vacates......

[Dirk Diggler UK]

the Cotto-Canelo winner would likely pay 2-3 times (or more) of what a Ward fight might generate. GGG isnt going anywhere until he gets that fight or the winner vacates......

Read my post again and give it another go.

[Raonic]

Golovkin hasn't fought a single fight at 160 that would generate more money than a fight against Andre Ward would. That's where the fallacy comes into your thinking.

Obviously not but the point is that by staying in the division, you will get that big money fight (that would be bigger than a 168 fight with Ward).

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Obviously not but the point is that by staying in the division, you will get that big money fight (that would be bigger than a 168 fight with Ward).

But he was willing to move up for bigger money fights like Froch and Chavez. Ward is less money than those two but way more than anyone he's been facing at middleweight over the last god knows how many years.

It's done now though, he's avoided the Ward fight and he now has to go for Cotto/Canelo. So yeah....maybe 2017 for Ward like his team said.

[kafkod]

Golovkin hasn't fought a single fight at 160 that would generate more money than a fight against Andre Ward would. That's where the fallacy comes into your thinking.

You are mixing past and future tense there.

"GGG hasn't fought a single fight" - past tense - "that would generate more money than a fight with Ward" - future tense.

None of Golovkin's fights previous to him turning down Ward's offer generated as much money as a fight with Ward would generate now, because of GGG's increased popularity.

But so what?

His last fight will probably generate more, when the PPV income is added to the purse, and he will certainly earn massively more for fighting Cotto or Canelo than he would get for Ward.

[OnePunch]

But he was willing to move up for bigger money fights like Froch and Chavez. Ward is less money than those two but way more than anyone he's been facing at middleweight over the last god knows how many years.

It's done now though, he's avoided the Ward fight and he now has to go for Cotto/Canelo. So yeah....maybe 2017 for Ward like his team said.

he was willing to move up at that time because the unifications at 160 were not available to him. And at that time, Ward was either injured, in court, or needing tuneups (according to Roc COO David Iskowitz). Fortunes change, and now the unifications at 160 ARE available to GGG, so he has no need to look at 168 at this time. Tough break for Ward. But he can go fight a dummy on someones undercard, he'll be ok.......

[Mr.MojoRisin']

GGG is usually around 165-168 on fight night. 160 is where he belongs. At middleweight, he is powerful and a beast. At 168, he would look small. At 175, he wouldn't be nearly as effective. GGG should stay right where he is.

I must have missed when scoring criteria was based upon aesthetics.