Does GGG Belong In The Higher Weight Classes?

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  • boliodogs
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    #21
    He is not big at all. He is a small middleweight who makes 160 with ease and says he can make 154 for a big fight. He isn't crushing his middleweight opposition because he is bigger. He is beating them because he is BETTER than they are. He is usually outweighed on fight night. There is absolutely no reason for him to leave the middleweights. Middleweight has always been a glamour division with a rich history while 168 is a relatively new weight class that doesn't have the prestige of the middleweights. He should stay at 160 and rule and dominate 160 the way Hagler , Monzon and Hopkins did. Why would he want to leave a money making weight class he is so comfortable in to move to a less prestigious weight class to fight men who are naturally 8 or more pounds bigger than he is?

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      #22
      Originally posted by Kenchiro
      People need to put the hate away and stop worrying about ggg moving up or not. He's 33 he's body is fully grown n on fight night weighs only 170! He's always look great during weigh in n healthy on fight night.

      N no, boxers move up when they struggle to make the weight or when they've accomplish all there is to do in that weight. Or when they r chased outta that division. Truth is ggg keeps saying he wants to unify the division, he'll go down in history for that. He's making weight, he's making money so haters learn to respect that! He ain't done with the division yet.

      Do you hear ggg calling for froch or chavez jr anymore? He wanted chavez jr cuz the money was there so he gave leverage to jr at 168, since jr lost they're not interest anymore. Same goes to froch he backed out n that was it.
      Originally posted by boliodogs
      He is not big at all. He is a small middleweight who makes 160 with ease and says he can make 154 for a big fight. He isn't crushing his middleweight opposition because he is bigger. He is beating them because he is BETTER than they are. He is usually outweighed on fight night. There is absolutely no reason for him to leave the middleweights. Middleweight has always been a glamour division with a rich history while 168 is a relatively new weight class that doesn't have the prestige of the middleweights. He should stay at 160 and rule and dominate 160 the way Hagler , Monzon and Hopkins did. Why would he want to leave a money making weight class he is so comfortable in to move to a less prestigious weight class to fight men who are naturally 8 or more pounds bigger than he is?
      I can't say it any better than these two excellent posts. Green K for you both!

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        #23
        No. He rehydrated to 170. I thought he was much bigger.

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        • Roy Keane
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          #24
          We need fighters like GGG to want all the belts to leave know doubt who the best in a division is! Too many paper champs it ruins the sport. Much rather a guy hold all the belts in a division than collect a couple of paper belts in 2. If you are a perfect size for a weight class you should stay there ala GGG & Froch. Most only move up for big money fights or because they can't make weight not for 'Greatness'.

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          • Eff Pandas
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            #25
            I think any fighter who has or could clean out their division shouldn't be opposed to moving up in weight in most circumstances. GGG hasn't cleaned out anything yet, but he could by the end of next year I feel.

            Ward is a perfect example of what can happen to a guy who stays at a division that he cleaned out. Granted he has the extra problem of being inactive, but is there anyone fans woulda gave a **** about him fighting over the last few years if he had been active? I don't think so. Maybe a couple rematches woulda had marginally appeal for the fans who think home field is a big deal or think something would change a 2nd time around. For the most part once you clean out a division, you need to move up or you risk fighting unappealing opponents & just trying to go for longevity over exciting fights that'll capture fans imaginations.

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            • kafkod
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              #26
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              Who cares if he's "too small" or "too big".

              Great fighters do move through weight classes.

              This isn't a new thing.
              Some do, some don't.

              If they do move up it's always because of weight issues or money - they can get better paydays by moving up than by staying put.

              No fighter ever turned away from big money fights in his own division and moved up to fight tougher, heavier opponents, for less money, just because he wanted to prove his courage or thought he needed a better "resume"

              GGG has no problem making 160 and and that's where the big fights and the money is for him.

              Expecting him to move up now, or criticising him for not doing it, just isn't reasonable.

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                #27
                Originally posted by KingKhan1
                Like most I have been very impressed with GGG and his dominance of the Middleweight division. He looks unbeatable. The question I have been deliberating on is, Is he too big for the average Middleweight? Does he belong at 168 or 175? I wonder if he will have as much punch resistance in the higher weights and will his punches have as much affect on Ward, Kovalev and Degale etc. Opinions please

                He was 165 at the 30 day weigh in and weighed 168 and 170 on fight night his last two performances!

                He's one of the smallest middleweights in the game right now, so the answer to your question is no!

                God damn Canelo weighs more than him on fight night and he's a weight class below him

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                • Bardock
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by boliodogs
                  He is not big at all. He is a small middleweight who makes 160 with ease and says he can make 154 for a big fight. He isn't crushing his middleweight opposition because he is bigger. He is beating them because he is BETTER than they are. He is usually outweighed on fight night. There is absolutely no reason for him to leave the middleweights. Middleweight has always been a glamour division with a rich history while 168 is a relatively new weight class that doesn't have the prestige of the middleweights. He should stay at 160 and rule and dominate 160 the way Hagler , Monzon and Hopkins did. Why would he want to leave a money making weight class he is so comfortable in to move to a less prestigious weight class to fight men who are naturally 8 or more pounds bigger than he is?
                  I don't like that GGG and his team say this because it gives the winner of cotto-canelo leverage to make him fight at a catch weight.

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                  • RetroSpeed05
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                    #29
                    He came at 170 fight night. Theres 154lb fighters who come in bigger yet no one tells them to move up. If any MW needs to move up its Quillin who had trouble making weight and comes in 185-190 fight night.

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                    • NEETzsche
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                      #30
                      size-wise he is a perfect middleweight. it may be the case that he is so good that only a bigger man could beat him though

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