Comments Thread For: Golovkin Rejects Idea of Catch-Weight For Cotto, Canelo

[aboutfkntime]

I like canelo and golovkin....I am not biased .....all I want to see is the best fight the best with no silly catchweights and if your fighting in the middleweight division then you fight the middleweights...I hate pretenders and divas....when Leonard moved up to fight marvin hagler he didn't say to hagler fight me at 155...hearns and Duran didn't as well...they just got in the ring...as for golovkin being Russian as being bitter enemies of the states...I'm English and I would choose the Russians over the USA because your country has caused more problems in this world than any nation lately...and your world dominance is coming to an end.....look around and most people don't like your country anymore because your policies

No, but he told Lalonde to fight him at 168

I agree with you in principle, I just dont think that you, me, or Golovkin, are going to be able to convince Cotto that catchweights are unnecessary today.

To be fair to Cotto, we have had years to cry about pointless and unnecessary catchweight abuse..... and Cotto has been on the receiving end himself.

[Bigg Rigg]

There is nothing to cry about. GGG is on a mission to become the Unified, Undisputed Middleweight Champion of the World. He wants the WBC Belt more than he wants Cotto or Canelo. If he was desperate for a payday or if the circumstance was the exact same as his quest to fight Froch/Chavez (pure money fights) he'd gladly come down a few pounds. But as it stands, he is a middleweight, Cotto/Canelo will hold a Middleweight title, and he will not accommodate either one with a catchweight agreement just so he gets paid.

Doesn't change the fact that when it came to Andre Ward, Gi Gi made himself look soft bro.

[The plunger man]

******.....

You tried to tell me that Canelo is a middleweight because he weighs 155.....

And yet in the post above you state that the UPPER limit defines the division.

Confused ?

160 defines middleweight, and yet Canelo has never fought a middleweight opponent, and he comes in weighing 155.

Or does your latest theory only work when you need lil 153lb Cotto to be classified as a middleweight ?

154-160 defines a middleweight period....160 is the maximum you can weigh lol.....Ray Leonard weighed 158 when he beat marvin hagler.....its doesn't make him a light middleweight lol....how old are you...are 10 years old or something......you have a 6lb span which defines the middleweight divison and that's why you can weigh 154 or 160 and be a middleweight ...by the way cotto and canelo both fight 155 which makes them middleweight fighters lol

[kafkod]

[QUOTE=aboutfkntime;16146628]

LEARN THE SPORT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fighting at 172 on your way DOWN to 168
vs
Fighting at 172 on your way UP to 175

..... would require two completely different style camps.

i hate to break it to you, but Ward will be much stronger at 175 than he was weighing 172 whilst preparing to make 168.

The style of camp is also irrelevent. So are hairstyles, the colour of trunks, the music playing when a fighter walks to the ring, etc.

The weights are all what matter when defining which weight division a fight takes place in. That's it, bottom line.

And now I'm getting tired of talking with you again. This is like trying to explain long division to a child who can't count to ten.

[aboutfkntime]

No I didn't.....show me where I said that.? Lol...there fighting above 154 so how can they be light middleweights....the moment they fight at 153 then they are light middleweights but until they make that weight then they are fighting at middleweights ...it's common sense

Yep, you did.....

if it was me I would say ok ur get a catchweight at 157 and then I would smash them both back down to the light middles where they belong

[aboutfkntime]

Except 153 is not Middleweight. 148-154 is Jr. Middleweight.

155-160 is Middleweight.

Not in ******ville.....

In Ret@rdville, Ward is a light heavyweight because he fought his last fight at 172. But, Cotto fought his last fight at 153, but he's not a jr middleweight.

[aboutfkntime]

154-160 defines a middleweight period....160 is the maximum you can weigh lol.....Ray Leonard weighed 158 when he beat marvin hagler.....its doesn't make him a light middleweight lol....how old are you...are 10 years old or something......you have a 6lb span which defines the middleweight divison and that's why you can weigh 154 or 160 and be a middleweight ...by the way cotto and canelo both fight 155 which makes them middleweight fighters lol

Cotto weighs 153 son.

[The plunger man]

Except 153 is not Middleweight. 148-154 is Jr. Middleweight.

155-160 is Middleweight.

It's 154.1 ounce and then your a middleweight..so it's not 155... Anything that weighs over 154 is middleweight....and if cotto or canelo want belts then they lose that extra pound in weight and make 154 and stop trying to alter the history of weight divisions ..then they don't have to face golovkin because there it the middleweights ...if not then they face golovkin as a middleweight

[Fantasiabruja]

I like canelo and golovkin....I am not biased .....all I want to see is the best fight the best with no silly catchweights and if your fighting in the middleweight division then you fight the middleweights...I hate pretenders and divas....when Leonard moved up to fight marvin hagler he didn't say to hagler fight me at 155...hearns and Duran didn't as well...they just got in the ring...as for golovkin being Russian as being bitter enemies of the states...I'm English and I would choose the Russians over the USA because your country has caused more problems in this world than any nation lately...and your world dominance is coming to an end.....look around and most people don't like your country anymore because your policies

I'm not going to get into politics here that was not my intention, I was just wondering why would a GGG Fan think we would favor a Russian over a Mexican. But for the record my country is hated so much that we have millions of foreigners risking their lives daily to cross our borders to come live here. Sorry I couldn't help my self.

[aboutfkntime]

[QUOTE=kafkod;16146659]

The style of camp is also irrelevent. So are hairstyles, the colour of trunks, the music playing when a fighter walks to the ring, etc.

The weights are all what matter when defining which weight division a fight takes place in. That's it, bottom line.

And now I'm getting tired of talking with you again. This is like trying to explain long division to a child who can't count to ten.

You are a very ignorant casual fan who knows very little about the sport.

You really cant understand the difference between cutting weight and adding muscle?

Two completely different camps.

Ward undertook a SMW camp for the Smith fight, their objective was to work DOWN to 168, so any additional muscle-mass over 168 would be detrimental to their follow-up camp...... which is why I told you that Ward did not even prepare to be the best 172lb'er on the planet, as he was working his way DOWN to 168..... training for LHW will be completely different and will involve a lot more strength work and a completely different diet.

You must be able to see the difference.