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  • PulpFriction
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    #31
    Originally posted by vitali1999
    To the editor of this article you suck bro. Hopkins unified the last middle weight title in September 2001 with a ko of Trinidad. That's when B-hop became the unified champ. Not beating De la Hoya in 2004. Unless your referring to some meaningless title that doesn't count and has nothing to do with being an undisputed champ, like wbo, or ibo or usba fake titles. The real ones are wba, wbc and ibf.
    WBO is a real title.

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    • hitking
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      #32
      Originally posted by PK3434
      Good points but there will be a tremendous amount of pressure for the winner of the Cotto-Canelo winner to fight GGG, and the potential for incredible backlash if they don't. Regardless if GGG sells 200k, 300k, or 350k for his PPV he will come out of it as a bigger star that is on the rise. He already is the most talked about boxer among boxing fans and that is only going to grow. There is a good chance that by the time canelo or cotto is ready to fight again, GGG will have 3 belts in the division with a WBC mandatory due (which has already been delayed) against canelo/cotto. I know the WBC changes their rules and makes exceptions all the time, but they have been strong about GGG being next for cotto/canelo and I think they backed themselves into a corner and could be easily sued by K2/Golovkin if they allow another exception.

      Historically, it would look really bad if Cotto/Canelo duck GGG with a chance to be the undisputed champion of the division with all 4 major belts (5 if you include GGG's IBO belt) and the fan backlash would be intense.

      I also think that either guy could possibly make more money against GGG than against each other in a rematch. GGG may be willing to take a lower split of the revenue.

      Things are going to be very interesting in the next few months.
      I think GGG's core fanbase values the belts far more than the average fight fan and even the fighters themselves. GGG is popular among hardcore fans. But he basically has no casual fanbase. Which makes him a very high risk, low reward for Cotto or Canelo.

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      • Progrssive_Jedi
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        #33
        Responding to none sense never getting tiring

        Originally posted by hitking
        I think GGG's core fanbase values the belts far more than the average fight fan and even the fighters themselves. GGG is popular among hardcore fans. But he basically has no casual fanbase. Which makes him a very high risk, low reward for Cotto or Canelo.
        Too bad that pesky mandatory has been established.

        Originally posted by hitking
        Hopkins was very fortunate to have superstar welterweights that eventually came up to fight him. He's also a genetic freak thay was able to fight at a very high level well into his 40s. Doubt GGG will have those type of stars line up for him. So if he wants to waste what's left of his prime years fighting C level opponents for meaningless paper trinkets, more power to him.
        No reason to believe that GGG has a few good years left. He is clearly a genetic freak himself. Fighting Canelo will be a good one. If the red headed Goldenboy doesn't vacate.

        And yes I do value those belts for two reasons.

        First, it's only been done twice since they've had the four major belts

        Two, I believe that just about anyone can be coerced into fighting GGG once he has those belts and the level of exposure they give him.

        I believe he can beat Ward, but doing so now would be at the detriment of his other goals. Beating Ward gives other fighters more reason to duck GGG, not less.

        Lastly, Team GGG has built him into potential superstar, I trust them. They've shown that they know what they are doing.

        I can't say the same for many others.

        Originally posted by hitking
        Do tou ever get tired of writing different variations of the same ole, long winded post???
        Do you!

        Come on man, look in the mirror.

        Crack me up, acting like you don't repeate the same ****e. In fact if you all didn't repeate the same ****e, I wouldn't need to.

        Originally posted by PK3434
        Good points but there will be a tremendous amount of pressure for the winner of the Cotto-Canelo winner to fight GGG, and the potential for incredible backlash if they don't. Regardless if GGG sells 200k, 300k, or 350k for his PPV he will come out of it as a bigger star that is on the rise. He already is the most talked about boxer among boxing fans and that is only going to grow. There is a good chance that by the time canelo or cotto is ready to fight again, GGG will have 3 belts in the division with a WBC mandatory due (which has already been delayed) against canelo/cotto. I know the WBC changes their rules and makes exceptions all the time, but they have been strong about GGG being next for cotto/canelo and I think they backed themselves into a corner and could be easily sued by K2/Golovkin if they allow another exception.

        Historically, it would look really bad if Cotto/Canelo duck GGG with a chance to be the undisputed champion of the division with all 4 major belts (5 if you include GGG's IBO belt) and the fan backlash would be intense.

        I also think that either guy could possibly make more money against GGG than against each other in a rematch. GGG may be willing to take a lower split of the revenue.

        Things are going to be very interesting in the next few months.
        You are correct. I'm usually cynical about sanctioning bodies doing the right thing, but they've really been adamant about this.

        So much so that they put their foot down on whether Cotto/Canelo could be fought over MW title. They had to get a step aside. Team GGG gave one under the premise that the winner faces them.

        If either back out of that, I doubt they are so nice the second time around.

        Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...

        And Team GGG have said publically that they won't take another step aside, and won't take a catch weight.

        Frankly I hope they stay steady on both things. Because it's time to do away with catch weight championship boughts.

        If you fight for a belt, you fight at that belts weight.
        Last edited by Progrssive_Jedi; 10-13-2015, 11:51 AM.

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        • hitking
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          #34
          Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
          Too bad that pesky mandatory has been established.



          No reason to believe that GGG has a few good years left. He is clearly a genetic freak himself. Fighting Canelo will be a good one. If the red headed Goldenboy doesn't vacate.

          And yes I do value those belts for two reasons.

          First, it's only been done twice since they've had the four major belts

          Two, I believe that just about anyone can be coerced into fighting GGG once he has those belts and the level of exposure they give him.

          I believe he can beat Ward, but doing so now would be at the detriment of his other goals. Beating Ward gives other fighters more reason to duck GGG, not less.

          Lastly, Team GGG has built him into potential superstar, I trust them. They've shown that they know what they are doing.

          I can't say the same for many others.



          Do you!

          Come on man, look in the mirror.

          Crack me up, acting like you don't repeate the same ****e. In fact if you all didn't repeate the same ****e, I wouldn't need to.



          You are correct. I'm usually cynical about sanctioning bodies doing the right thing, but they've really been adamant about this.

          So much so that they put their foot down on whether Cotto/Canelo could be fought over MW title. They had to get a step aside. Team GGG gave one under the premise that the winner faces them.

          If either back out of that, I doubt they are so nice the second time around.

          Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...

          And Team GGG have said publically that they won't take another step aside, and won't take a catch weight.

          Frankly I hope they stay steady on both things. Because it's time to do away with catch weight championship boughts.

          If you fight for a belt, you fight at that belts weight.
          Belts, belts, belts, belts, belts. Its like a bad song the radio keeps playing over and over and over again. Put some names next to those belts.

          David Lemieux: was KO'd by career journeyman and fringe contender Rubio. Was outpointed by a washed up career journeyman Alcine, who ****** in his prime.

          Andy Lee: KO'd by career joke Chavez Jr. Was also KO'd by career journeyman and fringe contender Brian Vera.

          Miguel Cotto: Natural jr middleweight who was considered washed up 3yrs ago when he was beaten by Floyd, yhen outclassed by Trout.

          I've noticed with all this belt mumbo jumbo, nobody ever mentions names. When you put the names next to the belts. The only thing "epic" about GGG's unification run is the epic waste of time it is.

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            #35
            Originally posted by tiliheels
            thats right..u refreshed my memory..mw has always ****** just about...hopkins had to fight blew up ww's who one their titles one fight ago..oscar robbed his tito won his fair and square...but who did he win the other 2 from lol...thats wat i mean bro...his resume ****** until he got to guys who really werent mw's....

            GGG is going to be that same way...possibly even worse
            My god man. You are literally ******ed, aren't you?

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            • aboutfkntime
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              #36
              Originally posted by hitking
              Belts, belts, belts, belts, belts. Its like a bad song the radio keeps playing over and over and over again. Put some names next to those belts.

              David Lemieux: was KO'd by career journeyman and fringe contender Rubio. Was outpointed by a washed up career journeyman Alcine, who ****** in his prime.

              Andy Lee: KO'd by career joke Chavez Jr. Was also KO'd by career journeyman and fringe contender Brian Vera.

              Miguel Cotto: Natural jr middleweight who was considered washed up 3yrs ago when he was beaten by Floyd, yhen outclassed by Trout.

              I've noticed with all this belt mumbo jumbo, nobody ever mentions names. When you put the names next to the belts. The only thing "epic" about GGG's unification run is the epic waste of time it is.
              Exactly !

              Nobody cares how many world titles Mayweather won, or how many divisions Pacquiao fought in..... it comes down to who you beat, and when.

              Nothing else matters.

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              • Ray*
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                #37
                Good, no more I would fight anyone from 154-175... Lol

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                • BoZz
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                  #38
                  Seriously what has boxing become? A guy who's 33 and his best fight so far is against some bum from Tasmania is putting his cheap name in the same sentence with hopkins..he's scared to death of ward and is only after rubbish fighters..he thinks fighting a c leveled fighter next will make him a better fighter..his only fans are casual fans because that bum hasn't had one proper opponent yet.

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                  • Porter's Dad
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                    #39
                    Jesus Christ, the TMT groupies are intent on hi-******* every single Golovkin thread with their bitter, insecure bull****

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                    • Deevel916
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by PK3434
                      Good points but there will be a tremendous amount of pressure for the winner of the Cotto-Canelo winner to fight GGG, and the potential for incredible backlash if they don't. Regardless if GGG sells 200k, 300k, or 350k for his PPV he will come out of it as a bigger star that is on the rise. He already is the most talked about boxer among boxing fans and that is only going to grow. There is a good chance that by the time canelo or cotto is ready to fight again, GGG will have 3 belts in the division with a WBC mandatory due (which has already been delayed) against canelo/cotto. I know the WBC changes their rules and makes exceptions all the time, but they have been strong about GGG being next for cotto/canelo and I think they backed themselves into a corner and could be easily sued by K2/Golovkin if they allow another exception.

                      Historically, it would look really bad if Cotto/Canelo duck GGG with a chance to be the undisputed champion of the division with all 4 major belts (5 if you include GGG's IBO belt) and the fan backlash would be intense.

                      I also think that either guy could possibly make more money against GGG than against each other in a rematch. GGG may be willing to take a lower split of the revenue.

                      Things are going to be very interesting in the next few months.
                      I'm rooting for canelo solely because he will more than likely be willing to step in the ring with GGG rather than cotto. Cotto has already gone on the record to say that he will vacate if they try and force that fight.

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