if ward was a "superstar",,would team ggg still be as reluctant as they currently are

[Chuckguy]

Yes. Superstar or not you have to balance risk and reward and Ward is too risky. Losing would be career suicide so I still think the fight would not happen.

Think about it, you get $5 mil losing to Ward or continue to bank $1 mil, 3x per year for the next several years beating up less risky opponents.

This is the problem with a lot of fighters now a days they think if you lose one fight it's over but look at the broners bertos and rios of the world.

[imperial1]

Martinez was cashing out dude. He very transparently had one or two fights left in him, it was obvious after the Murray fight if not the Chavez fight.

Cotto is one of the most well-known fighters in the sport, you're talking about him as if he was some nobody that Martinez deigned to fight. In reality Martinez was desperate for the big names to fight him. He spent years begging for Chavez Jr to take him on. Yes Martinez cared about his middleweight champion status, but don't stand here pretending he was taking on the toughest around for free. Like anyone else, he wanted big names to get big paychecks.

BTW I don't remember anyone asking Martinez to move up and fight Ward instead of waiting for Chavez or Cotto. They would have been laughed at.

Yeah he chased big names no doubt but he wasn't using reward as the excuse let's not act like he got a whole lot for Cotto ..And Chavez Jr at the time was one of the biggest names at MW plus there was a ton of pressure for Chavez Jr to face Martinez ..Martinez also never said he would face anyone from 154-168 like GGG did that's the diffnce there ..

[The Ninth Layer]

Yeah he chased big names no doubt but he wasn't using reward as the excuse let's not act like he got a whole lot for Cotto ..And Chavez Jr at the time was one of the biggest names at MW plus there was a ton of pressure for Chavez Jr to face Martinez ..Martinez also never said he would face anyone from 154-168 like GGG did that's the diffnce there ..

He got $1.5 million plus PPV revenue to fight Cotto. As far as I'm aware that's a career-high payday for him. So again, not like he fought Cotto for free.

Could he have made the same fighting Golovkin? Maybe... but Golovkin was the riskier fight.

[imperial1]

He got $1.5 million plus PPV revenue to fight Cotto. As far as I'm aware that's a career-high payday for him. So again, not like he fought Cotto for free.

Could he have made the same fighting Golovkin? Maybe... but Golovkin was the riskier fight.

He could,have got more ,he was the champ ,he conceded to the splits ..And like I said this is prize fighting I don't expect these guys to fight for free but he could,have demanded more not conceded to Cotto's demands he agreed to what ever Cotto wanted to make the fight ..


With GGG yeah he could have I believe at the time Cotto was on his radar same with GGG Cotto was on his radar as well ..It really was more about timing with these guys .

[The Ninth Layer]

He could,have got more ,he was the champ ,he conceded to the splits ..And like I said this is prize fighting I don't expect these guys to fight for free but he could,have demanded more not conceded to Cotto's demands he agreed to what ever Cotto wanted to make the fight ..


With GGG yeah he could have I believe at the time Cotto was on his radar same with GGG Cotto was on his radar as well ..It really was more about timing with these guys .

Martinez probably couldn't have gotten more against Cotto, who everyone knows is a big diva when it comes to the negotiations these days. And anyway that goes to show the situation Martinez was in. He wasn't well-known enough to headline his own PPV, not without another fighter supporting him. Even as the champ he was still the B-side, twice. That's not the situation Golovkin is in.

The fact is Ward is calling out Golovkin to get his own name back out there, just like Martinez did with Chavez and Cotto. But Ward isn't going to make the concessions Martinez did to fight Golovkin. He wants a 50/50 split, at 168. Golovkin does not need Ward to make a big purse, he can headline his own PPVs at middleweight, where there's another very lucrative fight awaiting him (the Cotto-Canelo winner).

Don't pay attention to what the people on this forum are saying about fighters. If people on NSB reflected public opinion, Rigondeaux would be making Mayweather purses. Instead pay attention to what your friends and relatives are saying. My mom has heard of "Triple G," my friends have heard of him. Nobody has heard of Ward, or if they have they know him as that guy who won a tournament in 2012.

[Bigg Rigg]

no replies?????

We tired of the Gi Gi and Ward drama show bro