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  • Eastcoast
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    #51
    The bottle neck for HBO fighters this year has been finding decent opponents. When Russian backers agreed to finance Ruslan Provodnikov, they insisted on the opponent being a big name - they forced JLC as the opponent despite him being washed up - they refused to approve more competitive but lesser know fighters. Peullo talked about that here. I imagine they had the same problem with Kovalev - no big names to sell him to the Russian public. I wouldn't be surprised if the Russian investors were trying to get Chad Dawson for Sergey.


    And ******s blaming HBO on this, keep in mind they buy the fights like Murray/Golovkin in MC for a reduced price. Their budget is fine.



    Originally posted by saint laurent
    Kiaba -

    GGG fought three times last year and HBO only showed two of the fights. GGG wanted to fighter three times again this year and HBO didn't have the many, so the third fight is airing on PPV.

    So I'm not really sure what your point is about GGG when he's been fighting on HBO twice a year. You may have accidentally proved my point.

    If HBO only has a handful of fighters under contract, it should be even easier for them to find three dates a year for them. Again, you accidentally proved my point.
    Get your facts straight. GGG fought 3x last year, but HBO tried to show the Adama fight, even sent an AV crew to Monte Carlo to try and figure it out on short notice. HBO was then committed to showing the Andy Lee fight as well. The year prior, GGG was on HBO 3 out of his 4 fights.

    As for this year, they were willing to show 4 GGG fights, but team Golovkin stated from the beginning that if they could secure a major fight, that Golovkin would only fight 3x. It went to ppv due the guaranteed minimum (an estimated $5mill) surpassing their single fight threshold.

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    • kafkod
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      #52
      Originally posted by Barcham
      You do realize that Beterbiev was offered a fight with Kovalev and he turned it down, don't you? When you turn down a fight with the champion so that you can fight an eliminator to become the mandatory to that same champion, that is called ducking. The reason is that Beterbiev and Haymon want to avoid the fight altogether by pushing for a purse bid to get Kovalev to vacate a title instead of defending it in the ring.
      Kovalev's contract with HBO wouldn't stop him from defending against a mandatory challenger on another network, if he lost a purse bid. Mandatory defences take precedence over network deals, if that situation arises.

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        #53
        Originally posted by kafkod
        Kovalev's contract with HBO wouldn't stop him from defending against a mandatory challenger on another network, if he lost a purse bid. Mandatory defences take precedence over network deals, if that situation arises.
        At least Wards inactivity was caused by injuries and promotional issues.

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          #54
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime
          At least Wards inactivity was caused by injuries and promotional issues.
          He's not injured now, but he still has promotional issues. Roc want him to fight Kovalev.

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            #55
            Originally posted by kafkod
            He's not injured now, but he still has promotional issues. Roc want him to fight Kovalev.


            good one

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              #56
              Originally posted by kafkod
              He's not injured now, but he still has promotional issues. Roc want him to fight Kovalev.
              I like Kovalev, hell I also like Golovkin, but its not as much fun discussing Kovalev with you as it is lil'G

              A couple of weeks back.....

              ..... Duva stated that she had a rewarding discussion with Roc Nation regarding a potential Ward/Kovalev fight...... she was positive about the discussions and stated that Ward/Kovalev would definitely happen, but that Kovalevs schedule was booked for the immediate future.

              ?????????????????????????????
              What happened to Kovalevs schedule, considering that Duva recently stated that Kovalev's schedule is full for " his next few fights " ?

              NOTE: Not once did I, or would I, take the opportunity to suggest to you that Kovalev is ducking Ward. I am a boxing fan, and a Kovalev fan..... but above all else I value honesty.

              All I am suggesting is that Kovalevs schedule was " full ", now it aint.

              I would like credit for my honestly, and acknowledgment that I am not some internet troll, as has been suggested in the past

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                #57
                Kovalev early resume:



                Beterbiev resume:



                I'll just point out that Kovalev waited 18 fights to fight a tangible fighter (Simakov)... Beterbiev has a much better early record with Cloud, Page, Campillo and Johnson... All within 9 fights... Heaven can wait for Artur...

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by saint laurent
                  Kiaba -

                  GGG fought three times last year and HBO only showed two of the fights. GGG wanted to fighter three times again this year and HBO didn't have the many, so the third fight is airing on PPV.

                  So I'm not really sure what your point is about GGG when he's been fighting on HBO twice a year. You may have accidentally proved my point.

                  If HBO only has a handful of fighters under contract, it should be even easier for them to find three dates a year for them. Again, you accidentally proved my point.
                  GGG's last four bouts have been broadcasted on HBO, but yes, they've gotten really tight with their budget over the past couple years and hell, that's why we're getting a HBO WCB main event as a PPV. However, GGG is clearly an HBO-only fighter, as well as Kovalev. Chilemba and Barrera are also promoted by Duva, but they can fight off HBO so it seems like the promoter isn't always completely tied into whatever deal HBO has with certain fighters. TR and GBP seem to have self-exiled to the HBO island, and it's clear that Canelo is HBO-only, while HBO has clearly taken a liking to Crawford.

                  Anyways, I forgot my original point lol. As for the thread itself, this was bound to occur. Kovalev is running out of opponents, and HBO doesn't want to pay for match-ups that won't amount to much. Kov has no one to fight at this moment, so he's pretty much screwed.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Superbee
                    Kovalev early resume:

                    Beterbiev resume:

                    I'll just point out that Kovalev waited 18 fights to fight a tangible fighter (Simakov)... Beterbiev has a much better early record with Cloud, Page, Campillo and Johnson... All within 9 fights... Heaven can wait for Artur...
                    He is a solid exciting fighter, but the issue with Kovalev and Golovkin is that they were 30+ when they first hit the world stage..... how old is Beterbiev?

                    He seems a few years younger, maybe 28'ish?

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                      He is a solid exciting fighter, but the issue with Kovalev and Golovkin is that they were 30+ when they first hit the world stage..... how old is Beterbiev?

                      He seems a few years younger, maybe 28'ish?
                      Beterbiev is 30, Kovalev is 31. Plenty of time for them to get it on before going over the hill!

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