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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #41
    Why are you guys bickering about Golovkin?

    His team don't want him in with either of these guys.

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    • Progrssive_Jedi
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      #42
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
      So, Golovkin is not this avoided killer who will fight anyone, he is actually subject to the exact same risk/reward decisions as any other fighter?

      And based on that, his current resume is exactly what they wanted.

      Right ?
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      Why are you guys bickering about Golovkin?

      His team don't want him in with either of these guys.
      His team hasn't said they don't want him in with either, they actually said its just not in the cards anytime soon.

      And GGG is mentioned anytime Ward is mentioned, because, well that why Ward did what he did.

      No one would care otherwise.

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      • BlackSoul
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        #43
        *is Andre Ward gon have to choke a ******?

        Ward at whatever weight class cleans out from 160-175
        his stiffest test to me would be(out of the big names) would be kovalev) not bc of anythang that kovalev possesses bc power CAN BE NEUTRALIZED but of the MIND of john david jackson

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        • CraigM
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          #44
          I don't think George will be fighting for a while now so there isn't even a point mentioning him.

          Would love to see De Gale vs Ward

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          • c3dryk
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            #45
            what if bute beats him? what then?

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            • wlliam
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              #46
              Bute is a solid 1st defense for Degale, as for Ward, Abraham, Dirrell thats just talk, his handlers are the ones who ultimately give him the ok. IMO id rather him go for Ward sooner than later while its at its peak and before he loses to a lesser fighter and spoil it. Right fights right time, no marinating BS and he'll become a major player in no time. From where im sitting, Degale is ready for Ward.

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              • wlliam
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                #47
                Originally posted by firstborn
                This would be a good fight for Ward, hopefully it won't take all of next year to make.
                Itll probably take about 2-3yrs just to "build up" instead of making it asap while Degale has some buzz..theyll most likely do some "optionals" or "voluntaries" and kill some momentum before finally getn on to Ward.

                Butes a solid 1st defense tho, no gripes here. The right fights right time just dont seem to happrn often these days...the right fights need to be spoiled beforr happening...thats the trend.

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                • aboutfkntime
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
                  Ok, your premise is GGG is just avoided by everyone that has something to lose, not those who need to do something.

                  Well if a LHW named Ward is the only person not avoiding GGG, IM PRETTY SURE HE IS DOING FINE.

                  However, Ward fought Dawson at 168. Dawson wanted what Ward, so he came down for him.

                  When GGG has discussed Floyd, he talks about going down where Floyd owns a belt.

                  But when Ward wants GGG (in a year and 4 months mind you), GGG must forgo two PPV, and a shot at a MW unification, and Lineal Crown, to jump up to a weight he has never fought at, just because Ward says so.


                  So let us look at this hypothetically in another way

                  So if GGG send Floyd Mayweather a contract to fight in Jan of 2017 (a year and 4 months), and in said contract, it says Floyd has to come up to 160, take one tune up, and then wait until GGG is ready.

                  And Floyd has potentially two WW PPV unification bouts, and a possible WW Lineal Championship to win.

                  Would you claim Floyd is ducking GGG if he refuses?

                  Or would you say what should be painfully clear, GGG wasn't really asking to fight Floyd, he was doing a PR stunt.

                  The truth is this

                  And yes, everyone in the MW division with something that interest GGG is avoiding him.

                  Those who are not, supposedly, is Lara, who would have nothing to offer, but much to gain. And isn't a MW would fight him.

                  GGG gets little respect for beating Lara, dude is small.

                  Same reason I think Canelo is a joke, he beat Lara, but by a tad, and while weighing a lot more than him.

                  So the MW lineal Champion Cotto Ducks him twice.

                  Canelo who weighs more and is supposedly the future likely Ducks him.

                  Yea, he is avoided. Barring given someone like Ward a shot.

                  And yes, that's a risky fight. Ward is a natural LHW, who addmittedly walks around at 180, and fights around 185-190.

                  That's a 15-20 pound difference.

                  It's like saying well Ward isn't avoided, because the Heavy Weight Champ will fight him.
                  No.

                  My premise is that Golovkin is not avoided at all.

                  My premise is that you fanboys have eaten that shht up like it was caviar.

                  My premise is exactly what I said..... that Golovkin is not this avoided killer who will fight anyone - like his team have dishonestly stated - he is actually subject to the exact same risk/reward decisions as any other fighter. Based on that, his current resume is exactly what they wanted.

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                  • aboutfkntime
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
                    His team hasn't said they don't want him in with either, they actually said its just not in the cards anytime soon.


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