This is a down right amazing breakdown

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Would be interesting , Floyd would beat the like of Esteban DeJesus and 99% of anyone on there resumes , so he would be highly competitive especially at 135-140 , could he be undefeated probably not .

I dont believe anybody his size will just wipe him out his defense is that good , I believe he could compete in any era in the history of boxing .

I dont go for the best in history for any guy you will never hear me talk that stuff , I think that stuff is fan BS , I believe the top guys if they were in a horse race and as they crossed the finished line you could throw a blanket over the whole field with very little between them , run the same race next week and you have a different result .

I agree, Floyd is competitive in ANY era that is why I have him in my top 30 of all time. If he'd fought in that era though, where they did do rematches fairly regularly I think it is fair to assume he would have anywhere between 2-4 losses. That's no knock on him, but fans that have him in say the top 3 of all time just blows my mind.

For instance I believe Roy in his prime is better than Floyd, but Floyd's prime of course lasted much longer than Roy's who just fell off a cliff after Ruiz. So hard to compare I know but while Floyd is an all-time great to even whisper let alone shout 'TBE' is just a nonsense.

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I agree, Floyd is competitive in ANY era that is why I have him in my top 30 of all time. If he'd fought in that era though, where they did do rematches fairly regularly I think it is fair to assume he would have anywhere between 2-4 losses. That's no knock on him, but fans that have him in say the top 3 of all time just blows my mind.

For instance I believe Roy in his prime is better than Floyd, but Floyd's prime of course lasted much longer than Roy's who just fell off a cliff after Ruiz. So hard to compare I know but while Floyd is an all-time great to even whisper let alone shout 'TBE' is just a nonsense.

For sure the TBE concept is just marketing and hype and something for fans to squabble over , you could be right about Jones his power was awesome alongside the skillset he had , Floyds defense is something truly special he had inbuilt radar and was a master of distance .

I dont have an atg list dont really believe in it because there have been just so many greater fighters that never really got the hype or exposure of others so kinda sat in the shadows , but if I did Id probably have Floyd around 15-20 , and mainly because of his defence he just did things so subtle and smooth most casual fans would never even notice it , you cant be taught what he has .

[ElMeroChingon]

facts.............

Today, boxing has so many Belts doe.

***** if there isn't a champion, they'll make them a belt.

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Today, boxing has so many Belts doe.

***** if there isn't a champion, they'll make them a belt.

Doesnt make them better than what they are , forget the belts and just watch them fight the real good guys , its easy to see the difference lots of guys win belts that are nothing more than B grade in the right fight at the right time , belts really dont mean sht who you beat means everything ,

[Syf]

Same conditions like competing in 5 different weight classes right?

Logical fallacy. A hw ain't gonna be moving up a bunch of divisions. In this era or any other. Whereas Floyd WOULD have more grueling fights with more relaxed refs in other eras.

I didnt , Im looking at 2 different fighters on face value after watching them fight and Floyd is waaaaaaaaay better than Marciano as a professional boxer , its nots close at all , to go down your imaginary route if Floyd was a HW he box circles around Rocky and win every round in a total shut out .

Man....

Not convinced at all that you've studied Marciano tape. His shuffling weaving style makes it problematic to potshot him. To hit him you gotta punch with him and Marciano was a slugger with either hand. He was perhaps most dangerous on the ropes, where Floyd likes to hang out. (Got Joe Louis outta there on the ropes). He could cut off the ring well, and had an ability to throw from odd angles and even when off balance. Rock also had deceptive quickness, and was tough as... well... rock.

Seeing how Floyd struggled with Castillo and Maidana perhaps you'd like to reconsider your preposterous notion there....

[SplitSecond]

Mayweather is retired, he's no longer relevant. Take these threads to the history section.

[b00g13man]

Logical fallacy. A hw ain't gonna be moving up a bunch of divisions. In this era or any other. Whereas Floyd WOULD have more grueling fights with more relaxed refs in other eras.

So you say. Ultimately we don't know if Rocky could've done it moving through 5 divisions, and we don't know if Floyd would've fared ok in 15 rounders. What we do know is that Floyd's resume >>>> Rocky's.

[Syf]

So you say. Ultimately we don't know if Rocky could've done it moving through 5 divisions, and we don't know if Floyd would've fared ok in 15 rounders. What we do know is that Floyd's resume >>>> Rocky's.

The point of this thread is now moot. Rocky's opponents have higher wins overall. Floyd's opponents' win ratio is only 13% higher than Rock's. I have proven how statistics can be skewed when gathered across eras. I have introduced the concept of 15 rds and more relaxed refs, which seems to irritate Floyd fans. I have also inadvertently shown that though people want to tout Floyd as greater, they don't know the first thing about Marciano.

Of course in this era the names on Floyd's resume pop out more because more people know them. Nearly everyone from Rock's era is either dead or on their way to be. Only a few dedicated people actually bother to look at tape (Rock AND his opponents) of who they are actually talking about. Rock was a ko artist, whereas Floyd is a decision guy.

It used to be that decisions were just a failsafe put in place should a contest go the full distance. 15 rounds and more action oriented refs also encouraged fights not to go the distance as much, as compared to today. Now you have guys GOING for decisions, and Floyd specifically getting away with that with his 0 intact. People from earlier eras would be shaking their heads.

Here's a statistic: Rocky's 86% ko rate compared to Floyd's 53%.

Only reason Rock went undefeated is he was knocking the majority of his foes out. Decision fighters weren't gonna go undefeated back then man. Different times, different expectations.

Nothing more to do here. Time to go find another thread to dominate. J/k. Or am I?

[b00g13man]

The point of this thread is now moot. Rocky's opponents have higher wins overall. Floyd's opponents' win ratio is only 13% higher than Rock's. I have proven how statistics can be skewed when gathered across eras. I have introduced the concept of 15 rds and more relaxed refs, which seems to irritate Floyd fans. I have also inadvertently shown that though people want to tout Floyd as greater, they don't know the first thing about Marciano.

Of course in this era the names on Floyd's resume pop out more because more people know them. Nearly everyone from Rock's era is either dead or on their way to be. Only a few dedicated people actually bother to look at tape (Rock AND his opponents) of who they are actually talking about. Rock was a ko artist, whereas Floyd is a decision guy.

It used to be that decisions were just a failsafe put in place should a contest go the full distance. 15 rounds and more action oriented refs also encouraged fights not to go the distance as much, as compared to today. Now you have guys GOING for decisions, and Floyd specifically getting away with that with his 0 intact. People from earlier eras would be shaking their heads.

Here's a statistic: Rocky's 86% ko rate compared to Floyd's 53%.

Only reason Rock went undefeated is he was knocking the majority of his foes out. Decision fighters weren't gonna go undefeated back then man. Different times, different expectations.

Nothing more to do here. Time to go find another thread to dominate. J/k. Or am I?

Looooool. The thread is not about the number of wins you bellend. It never was. Lol @ KO ratios. When you don't have to fight in 5 divisions, and most of your career was nondescript, of course you'll have more KOs.

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Looooool. The thread is not about the number of wins you bellend. It never was. Lol @ KO ratios. When you don't have to fight in 5 divisions, and most of your career was nondescript, of course you'll have more KOs.

And Floyd turns KO artists into air guitarist having power means nothing against Floyd if you cant touch him , Rocky was a plodder I believe Ali would have boxed his ears off no trouble at all and Floyd has more skills than Ali had , its just a BS comparison Floyd is far more accomplished against much tougher competition , all Rocky had was the right color at the right time and 49wins and mostly against nobodys with his biggest names totally shot .