This is a down right amazing breakdown

[Syf]

So we are not going to debate facts , we are going to debate imagine .

Fckn ******s in here how about we imagine you idiots have a real live working brain just for one day , wouldnt that be a trip down fantasy lane lol .

Any comparison between two eras involves imagination.. sort of like what anyone in a conversation with you has to use to think they are talking to anyone halfway competent.

[Slick_Rick]

still would have been a champ or former champion...

Yeah and thats a silly statistics , who cares if he fighting a former champ or Abc champ (shouldn't have even been one).

I give credit to Floyd for fighting Judah, not the fact of some nonsense champ or former champ, stat.

[baya]

Ive got 5 people at my job who browse NSB besides myself. I don't think they post though but I put them on nevertheless. Well there's this guy at my job who does nothing but talk about Floyd every single time boxing comes up. One of the guys blurts out STFU Larry and we all start ROLLING. To this day he gets pissed and has no damned clue why he gets called Larry.

this was funny

[baya]

How many 15 round fights did Rocky have, and how many actually went 15 rounds?

what? pffft!!!

[Chuckguy]

facts.............

Different eras bro. You can't compare the two. Only thing is they both finished 49-0

[Chuckguy]

Who cares if he doesn't leave Vegas, it's the ***ing fight capital. You talking about paying off judges but what fights of his can you even find where a large amount of people think he lost besides vs jlc? Paying off judges...yet beats everyone 10-2 seems legit

It would have loved to see Floyd fight Cotto at msg and packy in the Philippines

[b00g13man]

Put it this way...

Do you think Floyd could have gone undefeated with 15 round fights and much more relaxed refs? I don't personally think he could have.

Nah Floyd needs a public and media that's receptive to his action mitigating style, and refs that have ocd, for his 0 to stand. My theory: if he fought the same opponents, in a different era, he'd have losses.

And then this conversation wouldn't even be taking place.

So basically, what you're saying is change the "rules" just so Floyd can lose. Got it.

[b00g13man]

what? pffft!!!

Is this your way of saying you don't actually have the answer to both questions?

[Reloaded]

Any comparison between two eras involves imagination.. sort of like what anyone in a conversation with you has to use to think they are talking to anyone halfway competent.

Imagination does not have any weight at all when debating facts if it were a trial you would be thrown out as irrelevant , and then especially the imagination of young fans who are emotionally invested to the point facts mean little to them and they will twist fact towards imagination every time just as you are trying to do now .

The fact is Floyd is one of the best conditioned fighters ever in any sport he looks as fresh in the 12th round as he did in the first , and you say imagine if they were 15 rnd fights , I can easily imagine he would do it and not raise a sweat .

[Syf]

So basically, what you're saying is change the "rules" just so Floyd can lose. Got it.

Nah its like this: Marciano and his opponents operated under different conditions. To compare eras, you have to apply those same conditions to Floyd. Basic logic.

Imagination does not have any weight at all when debating facts if it were a trial you would be thrown out as irrelevant , and then especially the imagination of young fans who are emotionally invested to the point facts mean little to them and they will twist fact towards imagination every time just as you are trying to do now .

The fact is Floyd is one of the best conditioned fighters ever in any sport he looks as fresh in the 12th round as he did in the first , and you say imagine if they were 15 rnd fights , I can easily imagine he would do it and not raise a sweat .

I merely pointed out how statistics can be skewed when gathered and compared from different eras. It's not as simple as all that, as I have clearly demonstrated. And it's amusing you talk down to me; I'm a grown ass man in my prime that done forgot more than you ever learned. But the net allows for all sorts of things I suppose.

Floyd is well conditioned.. but ref protected. In another era he would not have been. Interested to know how Maidana 1 would have gone without fast breaks in the last half. Also I'd be interested to know how the first Castillo fight would have gone for 3 more rounds, since Floyd was struggling with an injury.