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  • BOXEO _
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    #151
    Originally posted by LarryXXX
    facts.............

    Mayweather was 32 years old in his 40th fight and had already retired once, Chavez was 21, big difference Larry.
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    • FlatLine
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      #152
      Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
      Quit your yappin. For years? What year did Floyd fight Gatti? What was that weight? Where was Khan? What year did Khan move to 147?

      Please tell me you understand merit.
      First Floyd vs Maidana fight was mid 2014, that's when Khan won the public poll but Mayweather ducked him through fear and intimidation, instead chooisng to fight someone Khan had already beaten (and someone who'd lost the public vote as Mayweather's opponent). It's been 1.5 years since then and Mayweather has repeatedly ducked Khan like his life depended on it, even going so far as to retire from the sport in order to avoid Khan entirely.

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        #153
        Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
        you listed marciano. wba and wbc didn't even exist at the time.

        ibf and wbo are new.

        orgs started this super, regular, interim champ crap.


        so when you count WORLD CHAMPS floyd beat you only count WBC, WBA champs?
        Technically it follows the WBA lineage... They were the NBA before and their fights were for the "world heavyweight title".

        That's how Ali went from "world heavyweight champ" to "WBA world champ"

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        • Lester Tutor
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          #154
          Originally posted by FlatLine
          First Floyd vs Maidana fight was mid 2014, that's when Khan won the public poll but Mayweather ducked him through fear and intimidation, instead chooisng to fight someone Khan had already beaten (and someone who'd lost the public vote as Mayweather's opponent). It's been 1.5 years since then and Mayweather has repeatedly ducked Khan like his life depended on it, even going so far as to retire from the sport in order to avoid Khan entirely.
          Perhaps. Given the light from how Top Rank has acted up until their lost to Floyd, yes I agree, I would have loved a Floyd fight. The thing is Khan is the most notorious in yapping, more than anybody, on how to beat Floyd, and publicizing so many negativity on Floyd that if he doesn't fight him, etc... You can't blame Floyd for hyping up Amir Khan and then abandoning the poll promise. That's the same kind of attitude like when he KO'd Ortiz.

          However, you stated ''for years Floyd was ducking Khan'' which technically is incorrect nor possible. Khan was not even at Floyd's level then or now. I will say though Amir Khan has been stopped twice by KO, whereas Pac has been destroyed 3 times by KO. So, yeah, I would've enjoyed a Khan fight over Pac.

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            #155
            Originally posted by Cinci Champ
            thinks he walks on water because i dont think floyd opponents took a dive? U cant be that much of a defensive wizard avoiding being knocked out by less then an inch 50 times a fights because his opponents are taking a dive. See the castillo fight means nothing to me if he won he lost it really has no baring on my opinion of him
            i think somewhere down the line you lost comprehension on what im saying. No...dont think Floyd is a great fighter. Hes an okay fighter. No i dont think ALL his fights were paid off. I think he got the nod on a some when he shouldnt have. He hand picked (and there is fottage of Floyd admitting this) he hand picked his opponents so he wouldnt have tough fights. He also avoided fights to fight a fighters name when they were way past their prime. Yes i do believe the fix was in on some of his fights as well.

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            • FlatLine
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              #156
              Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
              Perhaps. Given the light from how Top Rank has acted up until their lost to Floyd, yes I agree, I would have loved a Floyd fight. The thing is Khan is the most notorious in yapping, more than anybody, on how to beat Floyd, and publicizing so many negativity on Floyd that if he doesn't fight him, etc... You can't blame Floyd for hyping up Amir Khan and then abandoning the poll promise. That's the same kind of attitude like when he KO'd Ortiz.

              However, you stated ''for years Floyd was ducking Khan'' which technically is incorrect nor possible. Khan was not even at Floyd's level then or now. I will say though Amir Khan has been stopped twice by KO, whereas Pac has been destroyed 3 times by KO. So, yeah, I would've enjoyed a Khan fight over Pac.
              I hear that, good points. I think Khan's mistake was to start talking in public about how he'd try to outbox Floyd whenever the media asked him questions about that fight. This was during the time the first public poll was running back in 2014. In all those interviews he kept saying that he won't brawl and go wild but that it'll be a chess match (if he won the poll and got the fight).

              That's the exact opposite of what he should have said in order to make the fight because Mayweather knew that Khan would be a very difficult opponent to beat if he's focused on boxing rather than the more aggressive style that he used to have at some points in the past (and which got him in trouble too).

              Ultimately, I'm pretty sure that's why Floyd ducked Khan and decided to face Maidana instead because Maidana's brawling style was much easier for Floyd to deal with. And that's also why Floyd has ducked Khan ever since, because Khan made it clear that he'd be focused on pure boxing, rather than brawling. It's a critical mistake on Khan's part because it got Floyd too shook to take the fight.

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                #157
                Originally posted by LarryXXX
                facts.............
                Originally posted by Reloaded
                Larry we know Floyd is very special with accomplishments that will probably never be equaled , your only going to bring the haters and their BS trying to tear down every fight , let the history books record it and forget about the forums of casual fans .
                Can you imagine how fast these 2 would move if Mayweather started unzipping his pants in front of them? It be like lightning, They'd make Usain Bolt look like a slug

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                • Syf
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by b00g13man
                  Or the fact that Rocky fought worse competition for an extremely large percentage of his fights....
                  Put it this way...

                  Do you think Floyd could have gone undefeated with 15 round fights and much more relaxed refs? I don't personally think he could have.

                  Nah Floyd needs a public and media that's receptive to his action mitigating style, and refs that have ocd, for his 0 to stand. My theory: if he fought the same opponents, in a different era, he'd have losses.

                  And then this conversation wouldn't even be taking place.

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                  • Syf
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by FlatLine

                    Ultimately, I'm pretty sure that's why Floyd ducked Khan and decided to face Maidana instead because Maidana's brawling style was much easier for Floyd to deal with. And that's also why Floyd has ducked Khan ever since, because Khan made it clear that he'd be focused on pure boxing, rather than brawling. It's a critical mistake on Khan's part because it got Floyd too shook to take the fight.
                    I had to call you on this..

                    At the time Floyd picked Maidana, Maidana was coming off a beating of Broner... Khan sat hisself on the shelf after struggling with Diaz. Before that Khan was ko'ed by Garcia.

                    There was very little rationale to pick Khan over Maidana. And Maidana gave Floyd a better fight than Khan ever would.

                    People like to get all cerebral with it but it's really this simple: Khan doesn't react well to getting hit, so a sharpshooter like Floyd would have him resetting all night.

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                    • Reloaded
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by Syf
                      Put it this way...

                      Do you think Floyd could have gone undefeated with 15 round fights and much more relaxed refs? I don't personally think he could have.

                      Nah Floyd needs a public and media that's receptive to his action mitigating style, and refs that have ocd, for his 0 to stand. My theory: if he fought the same opponents, in a different era, he'd have losses.

                      And then this conversation wouldn't even be taking place.
                      So we are not going to debate facts , we are going to debate imagine .

                      Fckn ******s in here how about we imagine you idiots have a real live working brain just for one day , wouldnt that be a trip down fantasy lane lol .

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