Comments Thread For: Froch: Andre Ward is P4P 1, Golovkin Not in My Top Ten

[Nomadic]

This is always going to be the case with GGG. No matter who he fight in that hollow division, he is not going to get credit till he challenges himself.

[Ham Porter]

Handful of contenders lol. Everyone except Bute (because Froch destroyed him first) is a handful of contenders now :/

Bute fought Froch because Ward wouldn't fight Bute.

And Ward has beaten a grand total of six ranked contenders in the last six years - hardly Joe Louis level dominance, is it?

[doom_specialist]

Bute fought Froch because Ward wouldn't fight Bute.

And Ward has beaten a grand total of six ranked contenders in the last six years - hardly Joe Louis level dominance, is it?

Considering that he's had 9 fights in the last 6 years, which would be September 2009 till now (one of which was a comeback fight after a 20 month layoff), 7 ranked contenders in six years (3 were world champions, and one champion was the lineal champ at the weight class above him), is pretty damned amazing. You kinda just helped me out there lol

The only fighters he's faced in the last 6 years that weren't top contenders were Shelby Pudwill, and a comeback fight with Paul Smith. Shouldn't even take the Smith fight into account since he was out nearly 2 years and had the right to a tuneup.

[Ham Porter]

Considering that he's had 9 fights in the last 6 years, which would be September 2009 till now (one of which was a comeback fight after a 20 month layoff), 7 ranked contenders in six years (3 were world champions, and one champion was the lineal champ at the weight class above him), is pretty damned amazing. You kinda just helped me out there lol

The only fighters he's faced in the last 6 years that weren't top contenders were Shelby Pudwill, and a comeback fight with Paul Smith. Not taking the Smith fight into account since he was out nearly 2 years and had the right to a tuneup, Pudwill is the only blemish on his record in 10 fights, because he fought Edison Miranda who was also a contender directly before Pudwill.

No, it just highlights how abysmal the last four years of his career has been. He's literally done nothing since then but beat a zombie, Edwin Rodriguez & a fat DJ from Liverpool.

[kafkod]

He really isn't.

He is. Better known than Andre Ward, that's for sure. Most casual fans I speak to know who Golovkin is. When it comes to Ward, if I bring him into the conversation with a casual fan, I usually have to remind them - you know, that guy who beat Froch 4 years ago. The name itself rarely registers.

[doom_specialist]

No, it just highlights how abysmal the last four years of his career has been. He's literally done nothing since then but beat a zombie, Edwin Rodriguez & a fat DJ from Liverpool.

First you said 6 years, and now it's 4 years lol.

Let's see. In the last 4 years he beat the #4 guy in his division, then the #2 guy in his division (because he was already #1), and then he beat the #1 guy at LHW. He then fought a top 10 SMW (Rodriguez was #7), then had a 20 month layoff, and recently had a tuneup. Since that 20 month layoff, he's maintained his position on the pound for pound list, is still undeniably the best SMW in the sport, and his only clear threat is a man who has 3 belts at LHW. Gonna say that's been a pretty legit 4 years, minus the inactivity of course

[b00g13man]

However, if you want to talk about resumes, don't ever think Ward has a better resume in boxing than GGG, that's just ridiculous.

Looooooooooooooooool. This is a joke right?

[bojangles1987]

Bute fought Froch because Ward wouldn't fight Bute.

And Ward has beaten a grand total of six ranked contenders in the last six years - hardly Joe Louis level dominance, is it?

Bute fought Froch because Ward hurt his hand against Froch and wasn't going to come back until long after Bute wanted to fight again. So Bute tried to prove himself.

[hieY182]

Froch win > Golovkin's whole career
Abraham win > anything Golovkin did
Kessler win > Golovkin's whole career
Dawson win > anything Golovkin did

If wrote those with a straight face just stop following this sport please.

Dawson win? Perhaps you didn't know the contracted weight? Dawson weighed at least 5,5 pounds less than on his fights before at the weigh in. So If you genuinely count that as a legit win, then Im an ATG because I can KO Klitschko at welterweight. Dawson win though would have been the biggest one in his career, but considering this Im sorry...its Dawsons fault accepting that weight though..

You bring up Kessler and Abraham seriously? I mean Abraham is ATG in jumping rope..

Froch win was great, he schooled him, thats it up until this point. And he is going back and forth retiring and coming back to beat Paul Smithes.

GGG had been superiorly active and had similar type of opposition in his division but he is knocking them out like they are nothing. He has yet to have a signature win which everone would consider great, though, he knocked out Murray who has arguably beaten and knocked down Martinez (P4P top 3 at that time) in his hometown.

[TripleGFightFan]

Should have signed the contract...