Povetkin's resume isn't very impressive

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  • juggernaut666
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    #41
    Originally posted by Cutthroat
    Styles make fights, Wilder's size and Povetkin's lack of it give Wilder a huge advantage.

    Same goes for Wlad-Fury, Wlad has always struggled landing against mobile fighters such as Ibragimov and Haye. He mostly lands that right hand on stationary targets, guys with little to not head movement which is what his resume is filled with.

    Wlad also holds to neutralize any and all inside fighting, this works best against smaller or slow fighters. He's a very basic fighter, he has no inside fighting ability which is why he threw like 3 body shots the whole fight lol.

    Fury's mobility, height, and length neutralized Wlad's ability to keep distance, and that's where the fight was won. Wlad is nothing without his size and holding.
    You cannot fight someone who runs like a scared kid like Haye did,if you think wlad had trouble with moving targets try telling that to chris byrd or eddie Chambers. One of Wlads best attribute is actually his footwork and ability to cut off the ring when he uses it,Steward also rated it as Wlads best quality and often over looked.He pressed fury the entire fight ,he just didn't throw punches when the chance was there,we will see in the rematch whats what at age 40. A moving target with a 85 inch reach may or may not be to much,my prediction is he k.os Fury before round 9.

    Wilder would have the edge over povetkin because of the size/speed not because hes the better overall boxer.
    Last edited by juggernaut666; 05-15-2016, 07:37 PM.

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    • VatoMulatto
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      #42
      Originally posted by Cutthroat
      Now I'm really unimpressed after learning this guy cheated and still struggled that badly smh

      Wilder was going to hurt this guy.
      He never cheated prior to this fight because the stuff he was taking was legal. Meldonium was banned in January 2016.

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      • STREET CLEANER
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        #43
        Povetkin is a good fighter. It would be either guy best win

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        • Cutthroat
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          #44
          Originally posted by juggernaut666
          You cannot fight someone who runs like a scared kid like Haye did,if you think wlad had trouble with moving targets try telling that to chris byrd or eddie Chambers. One of Wlads best attribute is actually his footwork and ability to cut off the ring when he uses it,Steward also rated it as Wlads best quality and often over looked.He pressed fury the entire fight ,he just didn't throw punches when the chance was there,we will see in the rematch whats what at age 40. A moving target with a 85 inch reach may or may not be to much,my prediction is he k.os Fury before round 9.

          Wilder would have the edge over povetkin because of the size/speed not because hes the better overall boxer.
          Wlad landed 134 out of 509 punches against Haye, 105 were jabs. He could not land his power shots on Haye and was content with staying at range and boxing/holding. His fight with Fury is another example, absolutely refused to take any chances.

          Chambers went 11 with Wlad before getting caught, Byrd went 12 with Wlad in 2000. Steward taught Wlad to hold which neutralizes any and all inside fighting, pre-holding he was an aggressive KO puncher with no defense getting KO'd by Sanders, Brewster, etc.
          He 1st employed his holding tactics against Peter, knocked down 3x but his holding saved his ass from getting knocked out. Eventually he mastered it.

          You act like Povetkin isn't some 1 dimensional fighter, he got demolished against Wlad, rocked and struggled against Huck/Takam/Chagaev.

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          • Cutthroat
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            #45
            Originally posted by VatoMulatto
            He never cheated prior to this fight because the stuff he was taking was legal. Meldonium was banned in January 2016.

            He tested positive after he'd tested clean which means he'd taken some post ban. He was using them to cheat before though, Povetkin made a huge physical transformation in his mid 30's, I'd wondered how he did it, this is how.

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            • Sugar Adam Ali
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              #46
              Byrd and chambers were very impressive wins considering povetkin was still a prospect at the time and only had a dozen fights...

              Chagev was a legit top 3 guy at the time..


              Yes he struggled with huck, but that stuff happens during a career


              Would have liked to seen Povetkin fight Haye a few years ago..


              Outside of wlad, Povetkin has just as good of resume as any other heavy out there

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              • Beercules
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                #47
                OP doesn't like white fighters

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Cutthroat
                  He tested positive after he'd tested clean which means he'd taken some post ban. He was using them to cheat before though, Povetkin made a huge physical transformation in his mid 30's, I'd wondered how he did it, this is how.
                  That's not how meldonium works.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Shrap
                    That's not how meldonium works.
                    Meldonium has multiple benefits both physical and mental. Meldonium gives you the stamina to power through your workouts, you can train longer and harder. Increased blood flow can also help your body recover faster from workouts, it also can give you a mental focus.

                    Povetkin not only used it to help transform his body in preparation during his training camps, he used it while fighting. This drug played a big role in his ability to keep up his intensity for all 12 rounds when it's pumping oxygen rich blood into his heart.

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                    • juggernaut666
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Cutthroat
                      Wlad landed 134 out of 509 punches against Haye, 105 were jabs. He could not land his power shots on Haye and was content with staying at range and boxing/holding. His fight with Fury is another example, absolutely refused to take any chances.

                      Chambers went 11 with Wlad before getting caught, Byrd went 12 with Wlad in 2000. Steward taught Wlad to hold which neutralizes any and all inside fighting, pre-holding he was an aggressive KO puncher with no defense getting KO'd by Sanders, Brewster, etc.
                      He 1st employed his holding tactics against Peter, knocked down 3x but his holding saved his ass from getting knocked out. Eventually he mastered it.

                      You act like Povetkin isn't some 1 dimensional fighter, he got demolished against Wlad, rocked and struggled against Huck/Takam/Chagaev.
                      Fury has never even fought anyone better than Byrd beyond Wlad so im just going to leave it at that even though Byrds defense is much better than Furys and yoyu used Klitchko 2000 when we all saw what Wlad did to him after making minor adjustments in the second fight which you also ignore that hes always fought better in rematches ,its beating a dead horse here that theres so many things wrong with your post ,we'll just see come july 9th.

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