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  • Progrssive_Jedi
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    #41
    Originally posted by Bigg Rigg
    Ward ain't have Dawson do nothing. Lol he offered to go down to 168 in his post fight interview. I remember Max was surprised to hear that from Chad. It kinda came outta no where. So that's that. As for GGG, yeah, he's a middleweight but he mentioned fighting anyone from 154-168, that made him a potential super middleweight. He even wanted to fight Froch or Jr at 168, when Ward came knocking, he b1tched out. Started talking wanting bigger money, he's the A-Side blah, blah, blah. Now when ppl hit GGG with that, u guys get mad and act like Golovkin is being avoided. No! He's getting sonned like everyone else including in Golovkin tried to do to ppl when they advantage is in their favor.
    Bull, he came down. And GGG will move up, bet though Ward will want it at 172 then. GGG is being avoided, just because Ward comes out doesn't make it so.

    In fact, Ward has turned down two fights with GGG, and offers him one to be had in the fall of 2016, basically shelving GGG until Ward was through with tune-ups.

    WARD couldn't come down 4 pounds to face GGG, but he was fine with Dawson coming all the way to 168.

    And Dawson did have too, if he wanted to fight Ward. GGG at least would met him in the middle.

    Ward rehydrated to 185-190, a full 15 pounds more than GGG.

    So even if Ward isn't ducking him, well how impressive is that. If GGG fought a WW, badgered him like Ward is doing, you'd sure have some unflattering things to say.

    As for Floyd, he owns a belt at154, and GGG would have least come down to 154.

    Doubt Ward would come to 160.

    Originally posted by Bigg Rigg
    Man, **** Canelo! **** Little G too. Lmfao
    Coming undone! It's ok, sometimes you have to fight through adversity,

    Originally posted by Bigg Rigg
    it's not that, it's just Golovkins fans are ****ing annoying. They act like he's a throwback fighter but he's now doing b1tch diva **** like everyone else. Then his fans wanna act like that's not the case.
    He's knocking people out, going after belts, and sure big fight. So you guys knock him for not going after big fights, then knock him for it.

    He isn't a diva, he has been fighting his full 160 weight.

    Let me know when Ward jumps up two division and fights the best cruiserweight.

    Oh, but that's basically what you say GGG should do.

    It's ok man, there is a pill for that.

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    • Progrssive_Jedi
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      #42
      Originally posted by Bigg Rigg
      Lol must loving a fighter who's a can crusher! Chimps like Khan and Adrien Broner have better resumes than Little G. And I get all the same division talk but you're boy said anybody from 154-168 could get it..... What happened to that??
      He is fighting the best fighters that make sense. Ward does nothing for him. It's high risk, with little reward. Ward hasn't done jack in years, and doesn't plan on doing jack for another year. When GGG goes up to 168, he'll fight the best available.

      You act like that statement means he has to fight everyone who speaks up. He has a tough fight next,band then Canelo, then Lee. Three championship fights in a row.

      He is doing it the right way.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
        Bull, he came down. And GGG will move up, bet though Ward will want it at 172 then. GGG is being avoided, just because Ward comes out doesn't make it so.

        In fact, Ward has turned down two fights with GGG, and offers him one to be had in the fall of 2016, basically shelving GGG until Ward was through with tune-ups.

        WARD couldn't come down 4 pounds to face GGG, but he was fine with Dawson coming all the way to 168.

        And Dawson did have too, if he wanted to fight Ward. GGG at least would met him in the middle.

        Ward rehydrated to 185-190, a full 15 pounds more than GGG.

        So even if Ward isn't ducking him, well how impressive is that. If GGG fought a WW, badgered him like Ward is doing, you'd sure have some unflattering things to say.

        As for Floyd, he owns a belt at154, and GGG would have least come down to 154.

        Doubt Ward would come to 160.



        Coming undone! It's ok, sometimes you have to fight through adversity,



        He's knocking people out, going after belts, and sure big fight. So you guys knock him for not going after big fights, then knock him for it.

        He isn't a diva, he has been fighting his full 160 weight.

        Let me know when Ward jumps up two division and fights the best cruiserweight.

        Oh, but that's basically what you say GGG should do.

        It's ok man, there is a pill for that.
        Bro, Golovkin is using statements like "A-Side" and "Financial Sense" after first saying anyone can get it. His fans want to act like he's still a tough guy killer and not a business man like everyone else.

        Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
        He is fighting the best fighters that make sense. Ward does nothing for him. It's high risk, with little reward. Ward hasn't done jack in years, and doesn't plan on doing jack for another year. When GGG goes up to 168, he'll fight the best available.

        You act like that statement means he has to fight everyone who speaks up. He has a tough fight next,band then Canelo, then Lee. Three championship fights in a row.

        He is doing it the right way.
        If Ward does nothing for GGG, GGG does nothing for Cotto.

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        • Progrssive_Jedi
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          #44
          Originally posted by Bigg Rigg
          Bro, Golovkin is using statements like "A-Side" and "Financial Sense" after first saying anyone can get it. His fans want to act like he's still a tough guy killer and not a business man like everyone else.


          If Ward does nothing for GGG, GGG does nothing for Cotto.
          Making fights that are big, financial sense is not a bad trait. You don't take a fight with a dangerous fighter that has 20 pounds on you just because some haters want to see you lose. You do it for big money, or your moving up. You do it because you best everyone in your own division, you have all the belts.

          It's Ward who wants the GGG fight because he imploded his own career.

          The Ward fight will be good, but it's hardly the fight GGG should be going after.

          Ward will use extra weight to hold all night. It's a risk, why take it when you have work to doin the division.

          Just to please those who don't want to see Canelo or Cotto lose!

          Does nothing for Cotto

          Really, besides being the biggest fight outside Mayweather, or because by the time they fight he'll have two more MW belts. So Cotto/Canelo winner getting two more belts is nothing.

          Besides, GGG is vastly more popular and liked than Ward.

          Ward had trouble selling out his fight in his home state.
          Last edited by Progrssive_Jedi; 09-26-2015, 09:29 PM.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Barcham
            Golovkin doesn't have to wait. The winner of Cotto - Canelo fights GGG or they do not fight anyone at all.
            If you believe that then you are a bigger idiot than I initially thought. If Cotto/Canelo does good numbers then there WILL be a rematch.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Bigg Rigg
              it's not that, it's just Golovkins fans are ****ing annoying. They act like he's a throwback fighter but he's now doing b1tch diva **** like everyone else. Then his fans wanna act like that's not the case.
              You just described Cotto fanatics.

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              • Bigg Rigg
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                #47
                Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
                You just described Cotto fanatics.
                At least he's fought ppl. Who's GGG fought?? Lol

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                • big_james10
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                  #48
                  I love the way GGG and Lemieux have convinced themselves that they actually would have some influence in a fight against either Alvarez or Cotto. They are actually naïve enough to think that, if they win their fight against each other, they will be able to demand a fight at 160 with Cotto or Alvarez and the WBC will support their position.

                  We are talking about the same WBC that said Cotto had to fight Golovkin after he beat Martinez or he would lose his belt. Cotto still has the belt and is now fighting his second post-Martinez opponent. We are talking about the same WBC that didn't require Alvarez to fight a mandatory opponent in the three years that he held the WBC 154-pound belt nor did they force Chavez Jr. to fight a mandatory opponent for two years when he held the WBC 160-pound belt. This is the same WBC that almost ended up shutting down their operation after they lost a multi-million $ court case. That court case resulted from a German fighter named Rocchigani winning a lawsuit against the WBC for stripping him of their light heavyweight belt and giving it to Roy Jones for no reason other than the fact that Jones decided to return to light-heavyweight division after winning a belt at heavyweight.


                  Lemieux and GGG need to wake up and smell the coffee. Whoever wins the fight between Cotto and Alvarez will be able to do whatever the hell they want and what neither of them wants is to fight Golovkin or Lemieux in their next fight. If and when Cotto or Alvarez ever do fight Golovkin or Lemieux, it will be fought at whatever weight that Cotto or Alvarez choose, in whatever location that they choose and under whatever conditions that Cotto or Alvarez choose.

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                  • big_james10
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
                    He is fighting the best fighters that make sense. Ward does nothing for him. It's high risk, with little reward. Ward hasn't done jack in years, and doesn't plan on doing jack for another year. When GGG goes up to 168, he'll fight the best available.

                    You act like that statement means he has to fight everyone who speaks up. He has a tough fight next,band then Canelo, then Lee. Three championship fights in a row.

                    He is doing it the right way.
                    "He is fighting the best fighters that make sense." In the minds of the geniuses on this message board, this logic is okay and makes sense for every fighter except Floyd Mayweather.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Bigg Rigg
                      At least he's fought ppl. Who's GGG fought?? Lol
                      No one of particular note.

                      I assume you would like Golovkin to fight Ward, right? Me too, however I want Golovkin to fight Ward because as a boxing fan I deserve fights like that. I get the feeling your motives are different.

                      You know, it's a strange question.. Who has GGG fought? Do you think he should fight Ward to prove himself worthy to fight Cotto? Do you think he should fight arguably one of the best active fighters today, arguably better than anyone Cotto has fought to prove himself worthy to fight someone who lost most of his elite level fights? I mean surely to be of equal statue to Cotto he has to lose to Ward and a couple of fighters not close to Ward's level, right?

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