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  • The plunger man
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    #51
    Originally posted by damian War
    well if that's the case, then what the hell is Bhop using since he's half a century old and still sharp..all this coming from Thomas Hauser, the guy who works for HBO.. we don't believe you, you need more people.
    Bernard Hopkins has never ever been on floyds level of speed and reactions....Hopkins is bigger..slower and a spoiler and just gets by on wile and experience.....and Hopkins prime was a long long time ago....if you look at floyd at 38 ...his physique and fitness are abnormal for 38......Hopkins never had the definition that mayweather has even when he was 30... Btw check floyds physique in fotos now to what he was at lightweight....somethings not right for sure

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    • GTTofAK
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      #52
      Originally posted by Ray*
      I don't think USADA ever thought he was clean, if they did they wouldn't pursue him for years, spend your tax payer money for years to bring him down. It's just plain common sense.
      USADA only pursued Armstrong after a federal inquire dropped all the ****ing evidence right in their lap.

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        #53
        Andre Burto: ****ing VADA

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          #54
          Originally posted by Steve plunger
          Bernard Hopkins has never ever been on floyds level of speed and reactions....Hopkins is bigger..slower and a spoiler and just gets by on wile and experience.....and Hopkins prime was a long long time ago....if you look at floyd at 38 ...his physique and fitness are abnormal for 38......Hopkins never had the definition that mayweather has even when he was 30... Btw check floyds physique in fotos now to what he was at lightweight....somethings not right for sure
          Hopkins at 38 was a better fighter than Mayweather is right now, better footwork especially in terms of keeping his balance, and Hopkins could move forward with his attack where as Mayweather hasn't been able to do that well since Marquez.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
            Hopkins at 38 was a better fighter than Mayweather is right now, better footwork especially in terms of keeping his balance, and Hopkins could move forward with his attack where as Mayweather hasn't been able to do that well since Marquez.
            No he is not bongo......Hopkins has been irrelevant for 8 years now.....only kept at the top because of mediocre fighters in his weight....floyd has faced far better fighters albeit on his own terms,,,but cotto..Canelo ..pacquaio are far better than cloud or Chad Dawson...best fight Hopkins has faced in kovalev and he got battered like a piece of cod in a fish and chip shop...the point I'm making is mayweather should never have the reflexes and speed & fitness at 38 without something going into his blood......back to Hopkins now...I can't stand mayweather but he has always been a different level to Hopkins and that's a fact

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              #56
              Originally posted by Steve plunger
              No he is not bongo......Hopkins has been irrelevant for 8 years now.....only kept at the top because of mediocre fighters in his weight....floyd has faced far better fighters albeit on his own terms,,,but cotto..Canelo ..pacquaio are far better than cloud or Chad Dawson...best fight Hopkins has faced in kovalev and he got battered like a piece of cod in a fish and chip shop...the point I'm making is mayweather should never have the reflexes and speed & fitness at 38 without something going into his blood......back to Hopkins now...I can't stand mayweather but he has always been a different level to Hopkins and that's a fact
              Stay on topic, Hopkins at 38 was a better fighter than Mayweather, better stamina, better legs, threw more combinations and that's not even debatable. It doesn't matter what you think about their levels at their peak, at 38 Hopkins was clearly a better fighter.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
                Stay on topic, Hopkins at 38 was a better fighter than Mayweather, better stamina, better legs, threw more combinations and that's not even debatable. It doesn't matter what you think about their levels at their peak, at 38 Hopkins was clearly a better fighter.
                What the hell u talking about....Hopkins cannot compete with floyd on a skill level....for speed & timing and fitness.....how can you say that jeez....better legs than floyd and yet floyd moves the same as he does in the first round....footwork ? Come again lol.......next thing your be saying is Hopkins has been beating better fighters than mayweather...look I admire Hopkins what he has done for sure...but he has not been relevant for years now....oh yeah he has beaten shumenov....cloud....Murat and pascal....and if you know anything about boxing......the bigger you are the better you age in boxing......but if you compare skill levels to a mayweather or Hopkins then I'm afraid mayweather will always be the more skillful....hopkins is not on floyds level...

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Steve plunger
                  What the hell u talking about....Hopkins cannot compete with floyd on a skill level....for speed & timing and fitness.....how can you say that jeez....better legs than floyd and yet floyd moves the same as he does in the first round....footwork ? Come again lol.......next thing your be saying is Hopkins has been beating better fighters than mayweather...look I admire Hopkins what he has done for sure...but he has not been relevant for years now....oh yeah he has beaten shumenov....cloud....Murat and pascal....and if you know anything about boxing......the bigger you are the better you age in boxing......but if you compare skill levels to a mayweather or Hopkins then I'm afraid mayweather will always be the more skillful....hopkins is not on floyds level...

                  You continuously bring up Hopkins' fights well into his mid and late 40s. At a similar age Hopkins was more fluid with his combinations, never lost his footing in the same manner that Mayweather does now, you couldn't make Hopkins fight out of a southpaw stance momentarily. Also Hopkins could still attack whilst moving forward aggressively, Mayweather has trouble doing that right now.

                  Stop comparing their skill levels at their peak which mind you was never far apart to begin with, I'm strictly speaking around the same age.

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                  • Trinidad_Fan
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                    #59
                    Where's the OFF switch on Berto's microphone?

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by 12TRIBEsRiSe
                      so there are roids that help you take punches?
                      the recovery period of 38 years old after taking that hard shot is unbelievable...PED can astronimically improve recovery,endurance,stamina,etc...If a very clean 38 years old absorbs the same punch then he will be 100% knockout unconscious..Floyd is superhuman coz IV flushes out any PED on his system and will not be detected by testing procedure.Very bad in sport.Cheating to greatness like lance armstrong.

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