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  • #51
    Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
    I think Manny could fight 3 more times easily...just not at 147. I think he should go to 140, or fight the smaller WWs @ 144. I would love to see Pac vs. Matthysse, Pac vs. Crawford, Pac vs. Danny Garcia, or even Pac vs. Broner! I think the WWs, most of which are 150+ on fight night, are too big, like Brook, Thurman, Khan, Porter, and Maidana. With the exception of Khan, do the bigger WWs bring Pac more money than Crawford, Garcia, or Broner? Last but not least, Marquez vs. Pacquiao V is the best way to retire! Avenge the KO at AT&T Stadium in Dallas, stacked undercard, and I'll pay $75!
    This is also a good suggestion.

    I have a real issue with the way Pacs career has been " managed " in the past..... but now is a great time to start making smart decisions to preserve whatever is left.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Prime 407 View Post
      He should tell him to retire now, Pac's mind is no where near in boxing anymore and continuing to fight will only get him permanently damaged.
      Pac has been dealing with MASSIVE - often absurd - distractions, ever since I first started following him. Its not a problem imho. I have no idea how he manages so soak up all of that stuff and remain unaffected, but he does it.

      Pacs physical condition is more relevant imho, because of his style.

      Manny needs to stay sharp, as soon as he starts looking flat that could be the writing on the wall.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
        Pac has been dealing with MASSIVE - often absurd - distractions, ever since I first started following him. Its not a problem imho. I have no idea how he manages so soak up all of that stuff and remain unaffected, but he does it.

        Pacs physical condition is more relevant imho, because of his style.

        Manny needs to stay sharp, as soon as he starts looking flat that could be the writing on the wall.
        My opinion on this is that boxing is a natural talent for Pacquiao. He was at his best when he was hungry and climbing. But like so many champions, when you're at the top it's harder to find that same hunger and motivation.

        You hear it from Floyd, and it's just true in life I think. Heck, even the plot of There Will Be Blood shows Daniel Plainview hungry as an oil prospector, and completely mad and idle as a billionaire tycoon.

        What I don't understand is why people seem so adamant to close the book on great fighters like Floyd and Manny. They are still quite elite, and can dominate just about any of their boxing peers right now.

        If they choose to retire, that is their prerogative, but from what I've seen, neither of them NEED to retire. Manny was KO'd by JMM, true, but that happens. Lennox Lewis was KO'd, and continued on to avenge that loss, beat a shopworn Tyson, and weather a stoppage with Vitali.

        If they continue to fight, we will continue to pay, as long as the fights can be hyped properly. That's just my opinion.

        ...ryan

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        • #54
          Originally posted by invertebrae View Post
          My opinion on this is that boxing is a natural talent for Pacquiao. He was at his best when he was hungry and climbing. But like so many champions, when you're at the top it's harder to find that same hunger and motivation.

          You hear it from Floyd, and it's just true in life I think. Heck, even the plot of There Will Be Blood shows Daniel Plainview hungry as an oil prospector, and completely mad and idle as a billionaire tycoon.

          What I don't understand is why people seem so adamant to close the book on great fighters like Floyd and Manny. They are still quite elite, and can dominate just about any of their boxing peers right now.

          If they choose to retire, that is their prerogative, but from what I've seen, neither of them NEED to retire. Manny was KO'd by JMM, true, but that happens. Lennox Lewis was KO'd, and continued on to avenge that loss, beat a shopworn Tyson, and weather a stoppage with Vitali.

          If they continue to fight, we will continue to pay, as long as the fights can be hyped properly. That's just my opinion.

          ...ryan
          Actually, fair call..... hard to argue with that.

          Good post man.

          The head does rule the body.

          But still, Pac will be judged on the outcome of this performances..... if he can still pull the trigger, and retain his speed but more importantly his sharpness, that will likely translate into a good performance.

          But great point you are likely correct, only Roach and associates will know for sure.

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          • #55
            He should fight 2 more.

            1 last fight in america spring 2016

            Final fight in the Philippines fall 2016

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            • #56
              Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
              Pac is gonna have a few more big wins from guys Floyd ducked. Top guys. Some people still care about Legacy!
              who did floyd duck now?

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              • #57
                Pacquaio fought with an amputated arm and no brain a be he's still going to fight 25 more times as long as Arum tells him to, " go fight boy."

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                • #58
                  Pac deserves to retire. Fighter of the decade, and the hero who exposed Fraud Pedcheater Jr's ped use and completely discredited the woman beaters entire legacy forcing him to retire. Pac for President!!!!

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Lou Cipher View Post
                    Pac deserves to retire. Fighter of the decade, and the hero who exposed Fraud Pedcheater Jr's ped use and completely discredited the woman beaters entire legacy forcing him to retire. Pac for President!!!!
                    Pac deserves to retire, if that is what he wants.

                    But what if Pac wants to continue fighting ?

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                    • #60
                      Nah, PAC has 2-3 more fights before he calls it a career. I'd like to see him get one more tune up before ending his career on a high note.


                      I'd like see him beat one or two of the following before he quits.


                      Danny Garcia, Matthyse, Brook and Thurman.

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