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  • Cinci Champ
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    #351
    Originally posted by ganthet
    Here's a fact for you, there are no scientific studies nor fact to back up that IV infusion is better than oral treatment for dehydration. That fact cannot be disputed. Weren't you even the one who gave me the link that contained that which shot down your own argument LOL!
    tell that to the doctors who hook up patients whenever they are dehydrated to iv

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    • Reloaded
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      #352
      Originally posted by Rath
      Mayweather said Pac is on PED when he start knocking out guys.

      was that a rumour?

      those power pellets doe

      ariza shake doe
      l think coming from Floyd his perspective might be a lot different from ours eh , he asked for a test Manny at the time refused , so it stands to reason Floyd might think he was on peds , fair assumption from his point of view .

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      • Rath
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        #353
        Originally posted by Reloaded
        l think coming from Floyd his perspective might be a lot different from ours eh , he asked for a test Manny at the time refused , so it stands to reason Floyd might think he was on peds , fair assumption from his point of view .
        Floyd ask for a Floyd style random drug test by USADA and Pac did not adhere to it, not Floyd ask Pac for a drug test and Pac rejected it.

        that was the real story.

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        • imperial1
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          #354
          Originally posted by Rath
          Floyd ask for a Floyd style random drug test by USADA and Pac did not adhere to it, not Floyd ask Pac for a drug test and Pac rejected it.

          that was the real story.
          The real story is Manny did not refuse testing he wanted regular testing when he finally agreed Floyd IV said no becuase Manny wanted a 14 day cut off ! THATS THE REAL STORY !
          Last edited by imperial1; 09-18-2015, 01:34 AM.

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            #355
            Originally posted by Rath
            Floyd ask for a Floyd style random drug test by USADA and Pac did not adhere to it, not Floyd ask Pac for a drug test and Pac rejected it.

            that was the real story.
            It was a little different at the time and essentially means the same thing , he refused testing and he refused quite vigorously and from the Mayweathers perspective I can see how they would think Manny was using PEDS , no biggie just common sense .

            I always thought it was the CWs weakening Cotto and Oscar allowing the stoppages , I never thought Manny was on PEDS although he could have been it was neither here nor there for me .

            Unlike the speculation I looked at the in ring performance , Manny was weighing 142 fight night when he was fighting 130 , so the rise in divisions was not a big deal for me they just matched him correctly and pulled name fighters down in weight at time this wasnt done before in such a big way as Manny did it , like Teddy said he was man made and his matches made to order , personally I never believed he was on PEDS .

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              #356
              Originally posted by imperial1
              The real story is Manny did not refuse testing he wanted regular testind when he finally agreed Floyd IV said no becuase Manny wanted a 14 day cut off ! THATS THE REAL STORY !
              my bad i stand corrected.

              Thanks mr. imperial sir

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                #357
                Originally posted by imperial1
                The real story is Manny did not refuse testing he wanted regular testind when he finally agreed Floyd IV said no becuase Manny wanted a 14 day cut off ! THATS THE REAL STORY !
                Understand this , a known cut of date destroys any power random testing has its as good as saying no test .

                And by the way what was the reason he wanted 14 days cut off for Floyd remember how taking blood makes him weak , and then why did it not matter against Rios or Algeiri which had no such cut of date .

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                • ganthet
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                  #358
                  Originally posted by Cinci Champ
                  tell that to the doctors who hook up patients whenever they are dehydrated to iv
                  LMAO really? Am I supposed to believe that people who are simply dehydrated willingly allow themselves to be hooked with an IV? Not to mention the hospital bills that they would accumulate for being an in-patient LMAO!

                  Ok I'll play along with your ******ed argument. I'm waiting for you to tell me the names of the doctors who automatically hook up their patients on IV for being dehydrated and the names of the patients who willingly agree to that without question so that I may point to them that there are no scientific studies nor fact to back up that IV infusion is better than oral treatment for dehydration. I'm waiting...

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                    #359
                    Originally posted by ganthet
                    LMAO really? Am I supposed to believe that people who are simply dehydrated willingly allow themselves to be hooked with an IV? Not to mention the hospital bills that they would accumulate for being an in-patient LMAO!

                    Ok I'll play along with your ******ed argument. I'm waiting for you to tell me the names of the doctors who automatically hook up their patients on IV for being dehydrated and the names of the patients who willingly agree to that without question so that I may point to them that there are no scientific studies nor fact to back up that IV infusion is better than oral treatment for dehydration. I'm waiting...
                    Seriously your argument is that of a 5 yr old , the BS in here is a long winded joke .

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                    • ADP02
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                      #360
                      Originally posted by Reloaded
                      l think coming from Floyd his perspective might be a lot different from ours eh , he asked for a test Manny at the time refused , so it stands to reason Floyd might think he was on peds , fair assumption from his point of view .
                      So what was the cause for the dehydration AFTER THE WEIGH IN?
                      - Floyd made weight easily and came in at 146. Floyd and Ellerbe admitted to that making 147 has always been easy for Floyd.
                      - By the weigh in date, training is pretty much over. No intense workouts.
                      - Floyd said that giving blood drains you. That too couldn't be it since he hadn't given blood in about 10 days. Anyways, as has been said for many years, Floyd fans don't believe blood can drain you.
                      - Floyd said that giving urine drains you. OK, Floyd is getting desperate!

                      Floyd and Ellerbe has not given a credible reason to have gotten dehydrated so much that an IV had to be used AFTER the weigh in. That is the key here. At that time, it just does NOT add up. At most, Floyd was thirsty and could have used a bottle of water or Gatorade! An IV for that is not required.



                      Its a fair assumption that since Floyd's excuses are lame and a lie, Floyd is trying to cover up the truth.







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                      Last edited by ADP02; 09-18-2015, 01:12 AM.

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