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  • MisanthropicNY
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    #251
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    No idea, but that is not the point.

    The point is.....

    * did your question occur to USADA and NSAC ?
    * did they investigate

    Luckily you can rest easy, they did.
    Actually, the cause of his dehydration is the point...

    Many people suspect Floyd of cheating the tests...

    Did a doctor examine him and determine what the cause was of the "extreme dehydration"?

    Did USADA when it granted the waiver... find out who determined Floyd was dehydrated? What the cause of the dehydration was? Was he medically cleared to fight the next day?

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    • MisanthropicNY
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      #252
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
      No idea, but that is not the point.

      The point is.....

      * did your question occur to USADA and NSAC ?
      * did they investigate

      Luckily you can rest easy, they did.
      You don't find it weird that we have no idea who diagnosed Floyd as dehydrated?

      How did Floyd know he was dehydrated and it wasn't something else causing him to suffer certain symptoms?

      So we have no idea who diagnosed Floyd as being dehydrated rather something else...

      And we have no idea of the cause of this "extreme dehydration"...

      Although at the weigh-in which took place hours earlier, he wasn't even drinking water?...

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      • MisanthropicNY
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        #253
        I guess... we'll never know the root cause of Floyd Mayweather's "extreme dehydration" hours after a weigh-in where he was not even drinking water...

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        • aboutfkntime
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          #254
          Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
          What I said would still be in line with what USADA said...

          Floyd called them and said "I need an IV make sure I follow the guidelines"...

          But he didn't follow the guidelines... as he took 750 ml of fluid through an IV at home...

          USADA really dropped the ball there..
          .got called to make sure Floyd followed the guidelines and he didn't...

          But why was he dehydrated? No one can answer that question? Nobody thought to ask Floyd that at USADA?
          I think you could possibly have a valid point there.

          I'm just not sure if it is relevant or meaningful.

          USADA addressed the " home " issue..... the IV was carried out by a registered medical professional, and was witnessed by USADA.

          I dont give a fcuk where that took place, and neither do USADA.

          The wording is to ensure that " home IV " methods (you know what I'm talking about) are not undertaken..... well, they weren't.

          So that point is moot, and irrelevant..... for the purpose of honesty.

          Who cares if an i wasn't dotted, or if a t wasn't crossed..... just so long as we know that Mayweather was clean.

          The amount of 750ml..... I have no idea, you could be right..... but the point is, USADA do know, and USADA investigated the issue and have assured themselves, and everyone else, that Mayweather was not doping.

          And I dont buy in to the conspiracy theory with USADA/NSAC.

          That is right up there with that reptilian thing.

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          • Lester Tutor
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            #255
            Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
            So Floyd was extremely dehydrated?

            Can someone please post something explaining why Floyd was so dehydrated?

            He did fight Berto at 147 in his next fight... and weighed 150.5 30 days before the Pac-weigh-in...

            FIomos and Floyd's camp told us Floyd could make 140 and Triple G at 154 was too big...

            So I'm assuming shedding weight wasn't an issue...

            Was Floyd doing extreme training the night before the fight?

            Ummm... I doubt it...

            So Floyd's team still hasn't explained the cause of the dehydration...

            I guess we'll wait while they deliberate...
            There's nothing illegal about taking an IV for re-hydration purposes. This is why the WADA code REQUIRES a TUE for justification for any clinical investigation. USADA adheres to the code of monitoring where agents are present during administration. Floyd was tested before and after the IV. Even WADA's own code states, ''In situations of medical emergency or clinical time constraints, a retroactive TUE application is acceptable (ISTUE 2015 article 4.3).''

            It is a complete fallacy in logic or common sense that if WADA's code allows TUE's and retroactive exceptions then what in the hell is there a need for WADA to state the masking of illegal substances from the****utic IV procedures?

            The REALITY is, a non certified accredited WADA lab that does not do EPO, HGH and CIR testing may not find the traces of banned substances. However, those are just guidelines for the hundreds of thousands athletes worldwide. Pacquiao and Mayweather were extreme testings of EPO, HGH, and CIR. Most athletes don'T do all that, which is why there HAS to be a GUIDELINE of rules.

            Both May and Pac came back negative. Both fighters should be commended. That's just not good enough for Floyd haters.

            Again, Hauser waited 3 months to relay his PED Mess philosophy articles done back in 2012 along with Kevin Iole's late May article about TUE. Hauser wasn't successful with this malicious propaganda. When police or forensics have evidence that significant to a cause they don't ambush known information that all parties know. That's only what gossip girls do.

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            • aboutfkntime
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              #256
              Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
              Actually, the cause of his dehydration is the point...

              Many people suspect Floyd of cheating the tests...

              Did a doctor examine him and determine what the cause was of the "extreme dehydration"?

              Did USADA when it granted the waiver... find out who determined Floyd was dehydrated? What the cause of the dehydration was? Was he medically cleared to fight the next day?
              That is the question I meant.

              If that occured to USADA, and they investigated..... problem solved.

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                #257
                1. Tue was granted by NSac 3 weeks after the fight. Which means during the time of administering of 750 ML of IVs, FLoyd was doing illegal stuff behind Nsac's back. Only after 3 weeks was it granted by Nsac. Red flag.

                If a Prohibited Substance is administered via IV infusion or injection a TUE
                application must be submitted for the Prohibited Substance regardless of
                whether the infusion is less than 50 mL or the setting/circumstances under
                which it is administered. In situations of medical emergency or clinical time
                constraints, a retroactive TUE application is acceptable (ISTUE 2015 article 4.3).[/QUOTE]


                2. So what was the emergency a day before the fight that Floyd had to be taken to drastic measures and be allowed to TUE in the comforts in his home? Is he so sick that he can't do oral hydration? Bed ridden sick? USADA'S statement HAS FULL OF HOLES. They need to explain what is the medical emergency why he needed iv treatment which is only done for very sick people who can't drink orally.

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                • MisanthropicNY
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                  #258
                  Acute Prostatitis can lead to dehydration... perhaps Floyd and his butt buddy Ellerbe had some fun the day before the Pac fight?

                  I mean the cause of Floyd's extreme dehydration is more mysterious than the question of how we got here...

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                  • MisanthropicNY
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                    #259
                    Doesn't Roger have diabetes? Maybe Floyd has diabetes and that caused his dehydration?

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                    • TX_BOXNG
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                      #260
                      Floyd applied for the TUE on May 19 USADA approves it on May 21, why wouldnt USADA or Floyd Mayweather applied for it at that moment why wait...... oh cause we were trying to keep this on the low, but ****kkk somebody told Hauser, actually honestly i dont know when this stuff arose lol

                      750ml wtf???? Floydtards gotta admit its very su****ious, im a Floyd fan n of every other boxer out there

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