Better resume since 2013? Kovalev, Estrada, or R. Gonzalez?

[-Kev-]

So I was looking at Ring rankings as well as Transnational Boxing Rankings, and still can't wrap my head around the rankings, especially TBR, who took it beyond the next level with Inoue as #10.

TBR has Estrada above Kovalev. Here are their resumes from 2013-Present.

Kovalev since 2013:
Mohammedi
Pascal
Hopkins
Caparello
Agnew
Sillakh
Cleverly
White
Campillo

Estrada since 2013:
Asenjo
Alvarez
Segura
Meprenum
Melindo
Viloria

This resume^ is better than Kovalev's resume, according to TBR. Good enough for #7 on their P4P rankings, above Kovalev and Golovkin.

Now Gonzalez...

Sosa
Leon
Fuentes
Yaegashi
Purisima
Kantun
Blanquet
Rodriguez Jr
Barrera

^Good enough for #1 P4P in Ring, currently #2 P4P on TBR but will be #1 probably when they update it without Floyd.

Are these resumes really better than Kovalev's resume or is it a push for the smaller weight classes by journalism/media? Is the push of these smaller weight classes fair for fighters like Kovalev who had to go through the likes of Hopkins, Pascal, Cleverly, Sillakh and possibly Stevenson next just to get a lousy #8 on TBR's P4P 10 rankings? I imagine beating Stevenson would finally get Kovalev into TBR's top 5 P4P rankings. Cause you know, beating Sosa, Leon and Fuentes warrants you #1, but beating Hopkins (Former Ring MW champ, former 2x Ring 175 champ, 175 IBF/WBA champ), Pascal(former Ring/WBC 175 champ), Cleverly(undefeated WBO champ) , possibly Stevenson(current Ring/WBC 175 champ)...

Enlighten me, how many former or current Ring champions did Gonzalez or Estrada beat to gain their ridiculously high spots in the P4P rankings? Um Gonzalez beat 1 Ring champ...Estrada beat one former Ring champ. You have to combine their resumes in order to match the amount of Ring champs Kovalev has beaten. Yet they're both ahead of him in TBR? At least The Ring recognizes Kovalev as #3, but still **** up with the #1 Gonzalez ranking.

[crold1]

Why only 2013? Did something happen in 2012 you didn't want to consider?

[El-blanco]

Good question. I'm a big fan of all three but Estrada being ahead of Kovalev is nuts. I'm not a fan of TBR, they have just as much nonsense in their rankings as everyone else. Estrada over Kovalev being one of them.

[crold1]

I have Kovalev ahead of everybody but Roman below Floyd (who I don't think we can really call retired yet). I don't think Estrada has enough to be ahead of him though I think he's a top ten guy. Also agree Inoue is premature. Since 2013, Kovalev has arguably the most impressive resume in boxing besides Floyd (who had wins over Canelo and Manny...that's aces).

Roman's overall resume is there with him though, he's in his prime, and he got a little GGG'd at 108 where he couldn't get Nietes or Ioka (who won the WBA sub-title at 108 and wanted no part of pushing for the mandatory he was entitled).

This will all shake out to fun degrees in the next year. Roman could potentially be in position to make $ for Estrada, Nietes, and eventually Inoue (who needs more seasoning). The fights are there to prove, or disprove, his place.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Kovolev has the best resume, and has the 2 best wins any of them have...
Dominating and beating up hopkins and pascal is more impressive than anything roman or Estrada have done..

Roman by far is now the most overrated fighter in the world if you have him taking Floyd's place as p4p #1.. The dude hasn't had a major win since 2012, sorry but guys that are 21-6 and 39-7 don't count as major wins.. Let him beat viloria, Estrada 2 or inoui before proclaiming him the greatest fighter in the world.. Roman deserves his p4p status but doesn't have the marquee wins that top 3 p4p guys have. Roman is top 10 just not top 3. Tim Bradley has better opponents and wins over the past few years than roman

Estrada is a good fighter, but like a danny or khan or lucas, he is on the outside looking in at the p4p rankings.. The guy's career highlight is a loss to roman, and a win over a faded viloria.. The guy does have the legit wins and a rematch with roman is a big fight, but at this point Estrada is ranked somewhere between 11-20

[1hourRun]

Im a little tied up at the moment but while you are throwing names out there, you have to put things in context -- I keep telling people Chocolatito has been moving up in weight , most of the guys in higher weights are cry babies ; catchweights , ducking in different divisions promoter issues politics ect...these 'little MEN' don't play play games. You will hardly see a 50 year old flyweight competing at elite level around those weights and theres a reason for that.

Gonzalez just didn't start winning titles in 2013 ,hes been facing world class opposition since 2008 where have these other guys been? They get a little shine and you talk about the man whos been putting in work long before any of these guys did anything does not deserve the #1 spot? Come on...I think its a disdain for smaller fighters ; its easy to look at the size of Klitschko and stand in awe of his presence whilst Gonzalez could be standing right next to him and overlook the credentials.

[Cuban Linx]

I think Gonzalez is well deserving of the no.1 P4P spot.

It's not all about the resume. If it was all about resume then Danny Garcia would be a top 5 P4P fighter and well all know that's not the case. Obviously you have to look at other things as well like skills and how easily he's dispatching his opponents. Gonzalez is a 3 division world champion who has thoroughly dominated every single opponent he's faced. The separation between him and next best guy, in his weight class and above, is so immense compared to other fighters. Now you have to ask yourself, do these guys in other weight classes suck, or is he really that good? Considering he's moved up 3 weight classes I think that gives you the answer : He's that good. Last September he moved up to fight the best guy Flyweight and pretty much destroyed him. If he decides to move up to Super flyweight he'll have a chance to be tested against a great young fighter in Inoue and I would favor Gonzalez in that matchup as well.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Im a little tied up at the moment but while you are throwing names out there, you have to put things in context -- I keep telling people Chocolatito has been moving up in weight , most of the guys in higher weights are cry babies ; catchweights , ducking in different divisions promoter issues politics ect...these 'little MEN' don't play play games. You will hardly see a 50 year old flyweight competing at elite level around those weights and theres a reason for that.

Gonzalez just didn't start winning titles in 2013 ,hes been facing world class opposition since 2008 where have these other guys been? They get a little shine and you talk about the man whos been putting in work long before any of these guys did anything does not deserve the #1 spot? Come on...I think its a disdain for smaller fighters ; its easy to look at the size of Klitschko and stand in awe of his presence whilst Gonzalez could be standing right next to him and overlook the credentials.

Broner was a 3 division undefeated champ at one point.. With so many belts its pretty easy to do.. Obviously roman is better than broner, my point being is that roman hasn't beaten any true killers like other p4p guys.. Estrada win is solid and looks better with Estrada on a recent terror, but outside of that roman has beaten mostly washed up guys or paper champs.. His first title win was a legit big win as was Estrada, but after that it is just random no-hopers, faded names, and paper champs in the same vein as Lou del Valle, Kermit cintron, mickey bey, etc..
Roman deserve top 10 p4p, just not top 3..

[Build That Wall]

Hopkins alone makes Kovalevs resume better.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I think Gonzalez is well deserving of the no.1 P4P spot.

It's not all about the resume. If it was all about resume then Danny Garcia would be a top 5 P4P fighter and well all know that's not the case. Obviously you have to look at other things as well like skills and how easily he's dispatching his opponents. Gonzalez is a 3 division world champion who has thoroughly dominated every single opponent he's faced. The separation between him and next best guy, in his weight class and above, is so immense compared to other fighters. Now you have to ask yourself, do these guys in other weight classes suck, or is he really that good? Considering he's moved up 3 weight classes I think that gives you the answer : He's that good. Last September he moved up to fight the best guy Flyweight and pretty much destroyed him. If he decides to move up to Super flyweight he'll have a chance to be tested against a great young fighter in Inoue and I would favor Gonzalez in that matchup as well.

How is his resume better than Tim Bradley's..

Tim has victories over
Marquez
Undefeated Devon
Undefeated peterson
Undefeated abregu
Undefeated vargas
Kendall holt
Junior witter
Ruslan
Manny***