Comments Thread For: Andre Ward on 'Little G' Golovkin: Fans Were Hoodwinked

[HeroBando]

check my post history bro...IMO Ward-Krusher is the BEST fight that can made in ALL of boxing....I wanna see that fight more than any other....I don't even care about Ward fighting Lil G tbh...it's just the Lil G fans that make me feel some type of way....trying to manipulate well informed loyal boxing fans with kindergarten arguments is NOT COOL!!...WE ALL KNOW Ward beats Lil G rather easily....and that's the reason some dudes sound so ****** with the bs excuses they come up with as to why the fight shouldn't be made

I love this sport bro...been a fan since I was in diapers

So if unproven MW must move up pronto when Ward calls him out, how long does p4p Ward get to answer Kovs challenge?

I don't get it. You're ****ting on GGG for not moving up asap for an unwinnable fight iyo, and he's got great options and does great business at his weight. Meanwhile Wards got ****, his whole shtick is sniping on a hypejob mw,. The big Kov fight is there for him, what gives? Lower expectations than for hypejob MW?

[HeroBando]

I always just sit back and read through this GGG fans posts and laugh. I don't even need to reply because they already had fools out of themselves. Their biggest shock would be when the Canelo-Cotto winner decides not to fight GGG because he isn't big enough.

Werent you one of those saying he wasn't ducked at MW for years, despite all evidence? And now you're hoping for the MW champ to duck him next lol

[PunchyPotorff]

Lotta wild theories on this thread. Good to see alotta comments though, good for the sport.

As for Ward, kinda bogus to say GGG is a fraud. That could easily be said of him, proof being watch how long (if ever) he takes to fight Kov. At this point though, I don't know if GGG has the ring mobility to catch up to Ward. Obviously he could stop Ward, and Ward can be tagged. But Ward does have some great mobility in the ring, and he's slick with so many little veteran moves. I am just not sure GGG is ready for all that. Would be an interesting fight though... even though I'd be more looking forward to Kov/Ward. We would learn a he!!uva lot about both fighters.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

this is the best thread on the forum atm for various reasons....we get to see self proclaimed "educated" nerds sound ****** while trying to sound articulate by coming up with reasons as to why their FIGHTER shouldn't FIGHT one of the BEST in the sport

They will use the words of Lil G's investor/promoter as some sort of VALID evidence to support their argument ....I can't believe these candy ass cats be trying to manipulate wolves with their sheep ass arguments

Lil G can't beat Ward....simple!!...so stop trying to sell bs to the wolves who know the prices...there's nothing you nerds can logically say that can dispute that so keep bashing Ward's career, drawing power and whatever else sheep ass **** you clowns love to repeat, still doesn't change the fact that Ward made Lil G look suspect in the eyes of the wolves....the sheep can't say anything to restore Lil G's fraudulent rep as boxing's most feared fighter....his hoe card has been pulled...thanks to Ward and Lara, us wolves know who this guy REALLY is!!

What does it say about a person they attack personally!

Oh crap, I forgot, you struggle with the fallacy.

It must be tough being one of the enlightened few. Talking all tough on a internet forum threads, to guys you'll never know, never truly be in danger of having to put your hands on. All the while clearly lacking significant rhetorical skills, not to mention an coherent argument.

Since you probably don't get it, let me point it out for you:

"Educated nerds" LOL! Did you think about that before you typed?

No amount of backwards reasoning, or attempting to turn critical thinking or deductive reasoning into a pejorative will strengthen Ward or your argument.

It's whack, yo! (Is that better, did I dumb it down enough for you?)

THE BEST IN THE SPORT, who the heck has Ward fought in two years that gives him that claim. He isn't even ranked in top ten P4P. I guess you know better that all those pesky P4P list.

After Ward's layoff, no one knows how good he still is. He's always been a lame Floyd clone. But hey, that's greatness.

His last fight he didn't look that great. He fought an overweight body.

GGG would have hurt that guy.

Ward isn't an A-Side fighter any longer. No one has to duck him because he is a joke. Hence why he lost is P4P status, and is begging for a GGG fight.

GGG will fight Ward when Ward brings some cash, not when he can't get anyone to watch him. Period.

Since you believe I'm attempting to sound smart, you gave away the game (yo).

Let me guess, college is for nerds.

Attempting to sound smart! Not really, I just have trouble dumbing down style so you can follow along apparently.

If pointing out fallacious thinking, and poor deductive reasoning makes me a nerd, well so be it.

I did just switch over from Starwars Episode 7 Forum after all.

However, let me enlightened one of the enlightened few, attacking me personally only accomplishes one thing, proving your argument is WEAK.

You're not making sense as usual. If you wanted best vs best you'd be ****ting on Ward for stalling the Kovalev fight. That more competitive than GGG vs Ward, right? Are you a boxing fan?

No, he hates GGG, and can only find one person who last fought at 172 that he thinks can beat him.

He on one hand believes GGG sucks, but Ward is one of the best in boxing.

But then think this sucky GGG should forgo money, and unification fights to go box Ward on BET.

He knows Ward would use that extra weight to hug GGG all night. It's the only chance the haters have.

This isn't about Ward, if the two were in opposite situations, they'd be ripping GGG a new one.

[IR0NFIST]

They're bringing GGG along slowly, no sense in fighting the guys that are naturally bigger and arguably more skilled than he is and risk diminishing his image as a destroyer. His handlers want him to beat-up on lesser guys to build up his reputation before moving up to Ward's territory. GGG's biggest fights at this point in time will be against Canelo and possibly even Cotto.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

I always just sit back and read through this GGG fans posts and laugh. I don't even need to reply because they already had fools out of themselves. Their biggest shock would be when the Canelo-Cotto winner decides not to fight GGG because he isn't big enough.

GGG has already said, they can duck him, he wants the belt.

Besides, every new P4P list that has been co I got out has GGG topping out both Cotto and Alverez.

But I love how all you GGG haters have is hope the so called good fighters duck him.

I say good, let the two pretenders get out of the MW division.

GGG still has options, Ward still won't bring him money either.

Canelo will take quite a hit if he vacates, so let him.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

Lotta wild theories on this thread. Good to see alotta comments though, good for the sport.

As for Ward, kinda bogus to say GGG is a fraud. That could easily be said of him, proof being watch how long (if ever) he takes to fight Kov. At this point though, I don't know if GGG has the ring mobility to catch up to Ward. Obviously he could stop Ward, and Ward can be tagged. But Ward does have some great mobility in the ring, and he's slick with so many little veteran moves. I am just not sure GGG is ready for all that. Would be an interesting fight though... even though I'd be more looking forward to Kov/Ward. We would learn a he!!uva lot about both fighters.

Finally an objective anti-GGG comment. Not that you're anti-GGG, just yours is reason based. I mean that you make a compelling argument.

I don't agree, because GGG has great footwork, great slips, he uses his jab to blunt punches and open up huge body shots.

And he can cut off the ring.

Lastly, when he does face Ward, GGG will have gone up, bringing even more power.

GGG weighed in at 157 last fight.

I think he is skilled enough to fight Ward, but Ward I'll hold and move.

It could go either way.

But GGG shouldn't risk it while Ward brings little in earning power.

They're bringing GGG along slowly, no sense in fighting the guys that are naturally bigger and arguably more skilled than he is and risk diminishing his image as a destroyer. His handlers want him to beat-up on lesser guys to build up his reputation before moving up to Ward's territory. GGG's biggest fights at this point in time will be against Canelo and possibly even Cotto.

Canelo is heavier than GGG, and likely to be holding a MW belt. Hardly a lessor fighter. Cotto is a MW champion, not GGG fault he is a pretender.

And GGG has fought in the MW, the fights he's taken were not always against what was thought to be lessor guys, he made them look that way though.

His next fight is a big one.

He'll move up once he gets all 4 MW belts, like he should.

Ward had Dawson come down to fight at 168, at least GGG offered a 164 catch weight.

[IR0NFIST]

I would much rather see Ward-Kovalev. Fortunately, both sides have been rather amicable in negotiations and there appears to be a good chance they will fight. For those that talk about how Ward is far too big for Golovkin, Kovalev on average weighs in around 190 lbs on fight night whereas Ward weighs in around 175 lbs. That's a 15 pound difference as opposed to the 5 pound difference between Golovkin and Ward.

[STAX ON DECK]

haha dudes on this forum really really HATE ward big time,

i think i found my new 2nd fav fighter

[Progrssive_Jedi]

They're bringing GGG along slowly, no sense in fighting the guys that are naturally bigger and arguably more skilled than he is and risk diminishing his image as a destroyer. His handlers want him to beat-up on lesser guys to build up his reputation before moving up to Ward's territory. GGG's biggest fights at this point in time will be against Canelo and possibly even Cotto.

I don't get why so many seem to be Ok with Canelo/Cotto basically pulling a fast one on fans. It's GGG hate I. Sure.

If GGG when to fight for SMW belt, but at 163, and continued to fight for that belt, these same fans would call him God knows what.

But Cotto and Canelo are fight to be MW champion. But there's talk they will vacate rather than fight GGG, the mandatory.

So this fight would be a lie. They are fighting to be the guy who vacates the belt they are telling fans their fighting for.

Especially Canelo, because he is heavier than GGG, but has fought smaller guys.

Yet these fans claim its GGG pulling the fast one.

There is no logic in that position, at all.