What Does It Take To Become Greatest Boxer of All Time ?

[Eff Pandas]

The top accomplishment a fighter can do is to be the best of his own era, ATG lists that are in order are absolute BS.

Damn this is usually the type of **** I would say. I'm slipping. Agree with this 100%. Be the best fighter now & let boxing nerds who love scifi fantasy fight bs discussions worry about your standing all time.

[-PBP-]

It's impossible. The rules are completely different. How do you compare fighters that fought 15 rounds to guys that only fight 12. Guys with 215 fights to guys with 40. Guys who dealt with racism and fought well out of their depths to guys that are professionally managed. Guys that had one belt vs guys that have the chance to fight for 4. 8 weight divisions to 17 weight divisions.

I mean it's an entirely different sport if you think about it.

[MRBOOMER]

Henry Armstrong was 12 years older at the time and he had already 150+fights, he was clearly past his prime by the time he fought Robinson.

I sparring sessions of today count as fights then fighters of today would have 200+ fights too, Robinson has fought many sparring partner level opponents in official fights and in rare cases in title defenses, he didn't have 2 months camps for his fights early in his career, he fought 2 times a month sometimes.

24-25 pounds is almost the same, also consider that better nutrition and fitness is better on all fighters today too, not just Floyd Mayweather, so his opponents were of course physically stronger than the ones from the past.

What makes today's fighters stronger?

[SkillspayBills]

Three things.
Skills
Resume
Accomplishments.

You have to beat all your contemporaries, collect championships, break records, beat HOF's ATG's and champions all while showing once in a lifetime like skill. You also have to have everything it takes to be an ATG, ie, speed, reflexes, power, defense, ring IQ so on and so forth.
Actually typing this out makes me feel Floyd is really TBE lol he has everything I look for in an ATG.

[Ham Porter]

Beating a genuine elite fighter in their prime always helps. Something Mayweather never came close to doing.

[Divine Hammer]

u need to have the mentality to prove ur greatness. the greatest boxer of all time shouldn't pick and choose. shouldn't make excuses or put up road blocks. they should FIGHT and WIN!!!! FIGHT AND BEAT THE BEST IN THEIR PRIME!!! DON'T AVOID!!!!

- beat fellow hof'ers IN THEIR PRIME AT THEIR BEST (NOT WAITING UNTIL THEY GET OLD OR LOSE A STEP)
- having great accolades and achievements
- NOT AVOIDING REAL THREATS (YOU FIGHT THEM!!!!!)
- winning world titles like a hero
- not making excuses to not fight so and so, putting up road blocks, dictating terms on ur opponent for ur advantage
- taking unnecessary vacations when there is FIGHTING TO BE DONE AND GREATNESS TO BE ACHIEVED!!!!!

[sicko]

One thing I notice at the top of most ATG List is that most of them are SKILLED BOXERS, in fact it is barely any Sluggers at the Top of Those ATG List which I find Ironic but also shows you how ****** Boxing fans have become before for some ****** reason they think they Excitement is what determines greatness when in actuality a lot of the Legends would have been called "BORING" as well in this current ERA. Anyway that is another Topic!

But No question it takes SKILLS that is #1 then after that then it is Resume, how you performed in match big ups win or lose says a lot. Also what impact did you make on the sport and how you influenced the ERA after you. This is what Makes Tyson Great probably more so than his skills in the ring, his Influence was strong, every promoter was looking for the next Tyson!

Unfortunately the way fans are now, you will likely NEVER see a fighter be considered "THE GREATEST". Fight fans are too negative and hateful now, they can't even admit defeat so how are they going to admit when someone is great or one of the greatest or the greatest. Also I don't think boxing has the talent for fighters to accumulate a great Resume. How can your fighter build up a resume when you ****** ass fans run around calling everybody a "BUM" besides the guy you like

[BigAlexSand]

To become the greatest of all time, it takes multiple different things being inside and outside of the ring. Both Joe Louis and Robinson made impacts inside the ring being African American Champions during a time when boxing was the biggest sport in the world and they were often hated upon even more than Mayweather; yet to make impacts in people lives that has in almost a century has yet to be forgotten. Ali... Well you would have to be completely idiotic not to understand the reasoning behind his self proclaimed title of the "Greatest" and to argue his impact in and out of the ring would make you a Fool!

Mayweather has yet to make a single impact outside of the ring... The biggest impact was his showing a dark side than a good. Same with Pacquiao... Yet to make an impact outside, (being a congressman is great but considering the history and current state of politics in the Philippines it doesn't mean too much). Both great fighters of their time but far from the greatest ever. Mayweather has yet to win a truly meaningful fight since Castillo... De La Hoya. Pac hasn't won a meaningful fight since Hatton.

[BigAlexSand]

One thing I notice at the top of most ATG List is that most of them are SKILLED BOXERS, in fact it is barely any Sluggers at the Top of Those ATG List which I find Ironic but also shows you how ****** Boxing fans have become before for some ****** reason they think they Excitement is what determines greatness when in actuality a lot of the Legends would have been called "BORING" as well in this current ERA. Anyway that is another Topic!

But No question it takes SKILLS that is #1 then after that then it is Resume, how you performed in match big ups win or lose says a lot. Also what impact did you make on the sport and how you influenced the ERA after you. This is what Makes Tyson Great probably more so than his skills in the ring, his Influence was strong, every promoter was looking for the next Tyson!

Unfortunately the way fans are now, you will likely NEVER see a fighter be considered "THE GREATEST". Fight fans are too negative and hateful now, they can't even admit defeat so how are they going to admit when someone is great or one of the greatest or the greatest. Also I don't think boxing has the talent for fighters to accumulate a great Resume. How can your fighter build up a resume when you ****** ass fans run around calling everybody a "BUM" besides the guy you like

Damn near all of this is on spot!!!!

[BigAlexSand]

u need to have the mentality to prove ur greatness. the greatest boxer of all time shouldn't pick and choose. shouldn't make excuses or put up road blocks. they should FIGHT and WIN!!!! FIGHT AND BEAT THE BEST IN THEIR PRIME!!! DON'T AVOID!!!!

- beat fellow hof'ers IN THEIR PRIME AT THEIR BEST (NOT WAITING UNTIL THEY GET OLD OR LOSE A STEP)
- having great accolades and achievements
- NOT AVOIDING REAL THREATS (YOU FIGHT THEM!!!!!)
- winning world titles like a hero
- not making excuses to not fight so and so, putting up road blocks, dictating terms on ur opponent for ur advantage
- taking unnecessary vacations when there is FIGHTING TO BE DONE AND GREATNESS TO BE ACHIEVED!!!!!

We all know your distaste for Mayweather but to be truthful Pac is far from the greatest as well!!!!