What Does It Take To Become Greatest Boxer of All Time ?

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  • Jay Volcano
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    #1

    What Does It Take To Become Greatest Boxer of All Time ?

    What does it take to become the Michael Jordan/Wayne Gretzky of boxing ?

    On all GOAT lists we always see Muhammad Ali or Sugar Ray Robinson ranked as number 1.

    How can someone blow those two guys out of the water and become the undisputed GOAT ?

    What criteria do you guys take into consideration ?

    Era ? Number of losses ? Wins by KO ? Overall boxing ability ? PPV sales ? etc.
    Last edited by Jay Volcano; 09-13-2015, 03:39 AM.
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    I would be calling Roy Jones Jr. the greatest of all time had he not lost to Antonio Tarver and Glen Johnson. If he had beaten them and then retired undefeated at that point, he would have been the GOAT in my book.

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    • Eff Pandas
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      Man you need to have everything lined up perfectly these days to compete for the #1 spot all time. You need the obvious. Talent & motivation. You need right team. Good trainers & handlers early on to get a great amateur career that'll set you up for the greatest pro career of all time. You need the right promotional team & TV channel deal. These days being with the right promotional entity is more important than its ever been. It can put you in play or outta play for those key fights you need. And you need a TV channel deal later on when you start getting big that can help build up your hype & those big fights that'll make you bigger. I think the structure is hard to setup these days. From the structure I think there are a lot of roads that could get a fighter in that number #1 spot. A long reign, multiple titles in multiple divisions, lotsa wins, lotsa KO's, big ratings, big PPV's, etc & so on, but that structure is the key part & is work & a fair amount of luck these days to put together.

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      • Doctor_Tenma
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        #4
        Mayweather just explained that 40 minutes ago

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          #5
          It's a nearly unobtainable goal nowadays since the top fighters are considered investments and have their opponent choices micromanaged to the point that we're never sure how "legit" anyone is

          Ray Robinson had a professional record of 173-19-6... How likely is it we see that again

          I don't think Ali is GOAT... It's arguable if he even has the best HW resume of his century... He's tied up in the political climate of the day and was a crossover celebrity though so you get attacked for saying it

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            #6
            Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
            Mayweather just explained that 40 minutes ago
            yeah beating a washed andre berto via UD is what it takes to become the greatest boxer of all time

            da ***
            Last edited by ////; 09-13-2015, 02:30 AM.

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            • Ahmed_Ismail
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              #7
              Originally posted by Cruisin'
              It's a nearly unobtainable goal nowadays since the top fighters are considered investments and have their opponent choices micromanaged to the point that we're never sure how "legit" anyone is

              Ray Robinson had a professional record of 173-19-6... How likely is it we see that again
              only 21 championship fights though. 14-7
              Last edited by Ahmed_Ismail; 09-13-2015, 02:29 AM.

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              • Ahmed_Ismail
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                #8
                Originally posted by Cruisin'
                yeah beating a washed andre berto via UD is what it takes to become the greatest boxer of all time

                da ***
                38 years old! Who did Robinson beat at 38? hell who did Robinson defend his titles against when he was champion? believe me resume for resume they weren't much better than Berto, maybe Jake Lamotta?

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                • -Kev-
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                  #9
                  Fight 200 times, with about 15 meaningful fights, 155 tomato cans, 30 top 10 contenders.

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                  • Szef
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                    A combination of skills, resume and charisma. Challenging yourself and fighting the best opponents possible helps too.

                    I see flo Mos in this thread are already implying that Floyd is greater than Robinson and Ali....

                    Like your idol, just go away sons.

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