Max Kellerman on ESPN on Mayweather ABNORMALLY LOW T/E Ratio plus USADA vs. VADA

[Clegg]

When the testers could not be avoided, Armstrong and his teammates turned to drug masking, the report said. It indicated that during the 1998 world championships, testers were diverted to other riders on the United States team while one of Armstrong's doctors smuggled a bag of saline under his raincoat, getting it past the tester and administering saline to Armstrong before Armstrong was required to provide a blood sample.

The saline infusion restored Armstrong's blood values to a level that would not attract attention.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/12/sp...ests.html?_r=0

And still USADA saw no problem with Floyd doing something that they knew was a way of cheating the tests, and kept what they saw secret until after the fight. Did Larryx get a job at USADA or something? These guys are so blatantly corrupt, they probably tuck Floyd's **** back in for him after a urine test.

[The Big Dunn]

OK? But you have to see the History of his Levels you can't just do 1 Test and assuming he is doing something. Did his Levels Drop or did it Go Up that is how you tell if he is doing something

Show me test results, did he test positive for anything?

The red flag is usually when the levels are too HIGH I thought Not a PED Expert so I won't pretend like I know but I remember UFC Fighter Jon Jones levels being questioned early this year

Actually its both-a positive test is bad but if you take a test and your urine or blood is "too clean" that is seen as a negative as well.

[Left Hook Tua]

OK? But you have to see the History of his Levels you can't just do 1 Test and assuming he is doing something. Did his Levels Drop or did it Go Up that is how you tell if he is doing something

Show me test results, did he test positive for anything?

The red flag is usually when the levels are too HIGH I thought Not a PED Expert so I won't pretend like I know but I remember UFC Fighter Jon Jones levels being questioned early this year

jon jones was questioned because his levels were too low.

ppl aren't ******. when they're juicing they try to hide their high testosterone levels.

what happens though is when they mask it is it comes out too low.

[sicko]

Actually its both-a positive test is bad but if you take a test and your urine or blood is "too clean" that is seen as a negative as well.

Yeah but that is a problem, how do you PROVE someone is dirty without Positive Test? I think a lot of Athletes are on something, I think LeBron James is on something if people remember LeBron started the season kinda slow, he did not have lift in his legs. The man randomly took like 2 Weeks Off, came back and he looked better than ever.

[Eff Pandas]

what's dumb???

About 75% of the Manny haters & Floyd haters in this thread.

[Divine Hammer]

jon jones was questioned because his levels were too low.

ppl aren't ******. when they're juicing they try to hide their high testosterone levels.

what happens though is when they mask it is it comes out too low.

which is why floyd now has been doing iv therapy. i'm guessing it was heredia who suggested it (since he's now a part of TMT). it's far more efficient to mask illegal substances by using saline injections than it is to inject epitestosterone.

it's easy to now see floyd's history of cheating. very very disturbing. floyd and lance share very similar qualities not just in the ways they cheated but also tehir attitude their control freak nature and psychopathic behavior.

[Divine Hammer]

About 75% of the Manny haters & Floyd haters in this thread.

manny haters making the dumb and lame arguments and making lame excuses for their hero floyd. everyone else are just stating facts.

floyd has a clear history of masking his ped use. started out with injecting epitetosterone to level his t/e ratio but he later moved on to iv therapy but was caught leading up to his fight with pac. this is all supported facts. no one making anything up.

[sicko]

jon jones was questioned because his levels were too low.

ppl aren't ******. when they're juicing they try to hide their high testosterone levels.

what happens though is when they mask it is it comes out too low.

Yes I just seen that article from January about it:
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/22/7872199/ped-jon-jones-testosterone-levels-su****ious-daniel-cormier-drug-test-ufc-182

yeah Jon Jones Levels was extremely LOW: ratios of 0.29:1, 0.35:1 and 0.19:1

Again like I said not a expert so I'm learning since this Mayweather stuff is being talked about

[hectari]

Nothing wrong with an IV if done under medical supervision at a doctors office/hospital with a commission rep present, at 50 ml with the proper exemption.

The problem here is Floyd was getting an IV behind USADA and NSAC's back, at super high levels. USADA rep went to Floyds house and found the IV, instead of punishing Floyd and going to the commission they decided to give him an exemption. See how shady that is? Floyd was doing this without asking so he was basically cheating.

Its highly likely Floyd was using an IV more than once through camp to possibly flush his system. He just got caught by a USADA rep after the weigh ins. and to cover up for it they decided to give him an exemption when they have no jurisdiction their duty is to report to the NSAC about this they didn't.

USADA = corrupt. Oh its okay Floyd well just say you requested an IV, we got your back didnt mean to catch you man.

[Fetta]

Nothing wrong with an IV if done under medical supervision at a doctors office/hospital with a commission rep present, at 50 ml with the proper exemption.

The problem here is Floyd was getting an IV behind USADA and NSAC's back, at super high levels. USADA rep went to Floyds house and found the IV, instead of punishing Floyd and going to the commission they decided to give him an exemption. See how shady that is? Floyd was doing this without asking so he was basically cheating.

Its highly likely Floyd was using an IV more than once through camp to possibly flush his system. He just got caught by a USADA rep after the weigh ins. and to cover up for it they decided to give him an exemption when they have no jurisdiction their duty is to report to the NSAC about this they didn't.

USADA = corrupt. Oh its okay Floyd well just say you requested an IV, we got your back didnt mean to catch you man.

No its said that he called USADA to come to his house and ok the procedure so he can be in compliance. USADA representative ok'd IV, took test of Floyd before, sat through IV, then tested again after. Then once again after the fight.

The problem is that they didnt notify the NSAC prior to ok of the IV so they can give ok. In hospital would have been better too and they say if it was in hospital none of this would matter