Max Kellerman on ESPN on Mayweather ABNORMALLY LOW T/E Ratio plus USADA vs. VADA

[The Big Dunn]

Yeah but that is a problem, how do you PROVE someone is dirty without Positive Test? I think a lot of Athletes are on something, I think LeBron James is on something if people remember LeBron started the season kinda slow, he did not have lift in his legs. The man randomly took like 2 Weeks Off, came back and he looked better than ever.

You can't, but you can protect the integrity of the testing protocol, which is something different.

I don't know if he cheated but Floyd clearly violated the integrity of the testing protocol even though he had a nurse there administering the IV and told USADA before.

Its like how the cops treat a positive breathalyzer the same as refusing to take a breathalyzer at a DWI/DUI stop even though they are not the same.

[Eff Pandas]

manny haters making the dumb and lame arguments and making lame excuses for their hero floyd. everyone else are just stating facts.

See this shows bias right here. Even as a Floyd hater you must accept the fact that there are dumb mfing Floyd haters just like a Manny hater gots to realize some Manny haters are f#cking ****** too or this is like some US politricks ********s vs the **********s **** & you guys just act like the dumbasses on each of your side shouldn't be on the short bus.

Or maybe to flip a quote around if you look around & don't see the dumbass you are the dumbass.

All I know for sure is the level of ******ity in this thread from a majority of both sides of the argument is f#cking impressive. Don't mind me though I'm just here to lol at some of the momos regardless if they down for Floyd or Manny.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

lechon baka > lechon baboy

lechon manok nalang....it helps mask my cholesterol

[SplitSecond]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/12/sp...ests.html?_r=0

And still USADA saw no problem with Floyd doing something that they knew was a way of cheating the tests, and kept what they saw secret until after the fight. Did Larryx get a job at USADA or something? These guys are so blatantly corrupt, they probably tuck Floyd's **** back in for him after a urine test.

This is what really does it for me(if there's any truth to it).
It's the conditions Floyd/USADA were trying to impose on the testing of the bout.

Look at this first attempt, probably the most damning info of all this right now.

In early March, USADA presented the Pacquiao camp with a contract that allowed the testing agency to grant a retroactive the****utic use exemption (TUE) to either fighter in the event that the fighter tested positive for a prohibited drug. That retroactive exemption could have been granted without notifying the Nevada State Athletic Commission or the opposing fighter***8217;s camp.

A TUE in the event of a positive test and oh, we can just keep it to ourselves, commission, not the other fighter needs to be notified. The ***. Naturally it was strongly denied by Team Pacquiao.

Here's the revamped conditions of the contract that Arum talked about having to agree to otherwise the fight couldn't happen.

With regard to notice, a copy of the final USADA-Mayweather-Pacquiao contract provides: ***8220;Mayweather and Pacquiao agree that USADA shall notify both athletes within 24 hours of any of the following occurrences: (1) the approval by USADA of a TUE application submitted by either athlete; and/or (2) the existence of and/or any modification to an existing approved TUE. Notification pursuant to this paragraph shall consist of and be limited to: (a) the date of the application; (b) the prohibited substance(s) or method(s) for which the TUE is sought; and (c) the manner of use for the prohibited substance(s) or method(s) for which the TUE is sought.***8221;

Notice how Team Pacquiao has to be notified of the TUE within 24 hours. The TUE only came 18 days after the fight. And this is very interesting because it seems Floyd knew he was going to be dehydrated ahead of time, amazing foresight.

Both of the presented types of the forms were made to tiptoe some scandalous sht passed team Pacquiao.
When Hauser exposed this information back sometime in May of this year, USADA responded:

The Information in Mr Hauser's article concerning the final contract for USADA to run the anti-doping program for the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight is inaccurate.

The final contract signed by both fighters was that any TUE that was granted would be sent to the opposing fighter within 24-hours and that the granting of TUEs would be determined by USADA in its sole discretion in accordance with the WADA international standards for TUEs, which include retroactive TUEs. Any approved TUE will also be sent to the Nevada State Athletic Commission. TUE processing is a normal part of all international anti-doping programs.

Link to article: http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/...use-exemptionq

And from their response to Hauser just yesterday(or was it the day before?), they are caught in a lie because here they say they would act with the TUE in accordance to the WADA standards, but now it's in NSAC standards, *** our rules.


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Then we have that scandal with Golden Boy when it was Hymenized vs Montoya back around 2012. Read the entire article, but the bold is the kicker.

In a letter to Montoya dated May 23, 2012, Spitz wrote: "...(Montoya) asserted to the Nevada State Athletic Commission that (he has) received information that Golden Boy attempted to obtain an agreement from the Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency (VADA) not to disclose a potential B sample test until after the tested boxer had participated in the scheduled fight. (Montoya) further asserted that Golden Boy had entered into an agreement with the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) which contained such a provision. You have also claimed that Golden Boy entered into a contract with USADA for testing in connection with Floyd Mayweather fights which provided inadvertant use exemption that would permit a positive test to be excused if the result were inadvertant use. And that Mayweather had tested positive on three occasions which were excused under the inadvertant use provision."

http://prettyhollywoodgossip.blogspo...ive-three.html(the original article is easy enough to find but it's spread so thin this is just a simple enough summary I think)

It has been rumored Floyd has been getting these exemptions in cases of using or testing positive for prohibited substances/actions since 2012. I mean damn.

[GoldenGloveLove]

Hmmmm... I don't know anything about this kind of crap. I'm not a goddamn doctor/nutritionist/Peterson's Health Spa Guy. I'll just do that Kermit **** and drink the tea while I watch this all go down.

lol I appreciate this kind of honesty. Boxing forum rarity. Respect.

[Left Hook Tua]

lechon manok nalang....it helps mask my cholesterol

[PAC-BOY]

Ok, so let me take your route...

So I agree with you, Floyd broke the rules, ie "cheated". He took an iv, and that discredits his entire career?

What's your point? Do you think this exonerates Pac's loss? Because if you do, then you are a fan boy with the inability to see things clearly.

This is non news, until they can prove with EVIDENCE that Floyd took this iv to flush out PED's.

Outside of that, nobody will care but you, and people like you. That's just the reality.

I'm not into speculations. I don't care why he did or if he was on any peds or not. He cheated. Plain and simple.
Yes if he did cheat and he did certainly cheat. Then the fight should be ruled a No CONTEST.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

i can totally smell the sweet aroma

[Left Hook Tua]

i can totally smell the sweet aroma

i wonder if some places still give it to you wrapped in banana leaf.

[Clegg]

Kinda funny how it's Floyd last ever fight tomorrow yet 90% of his fans are nowhere to be seen. Wonder what's keeping them away.