Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[Zaroku]

I don't even have to read your whole post. In fact I don't think you know what a double standard means. I guess to you that is ''twisting the argument.'' Believe me I don'T even need to try strawman tactics with knuckleheads like you.

You can play all dumb you want and not acknowledge fighters stating ''Olympic style drug testing.''

I sent him a little info on logistic syllogisms which he won't read, but I feel good that at least I tried!

But again, I will be accused of twisting facts that knucklehead stated! He will then ask me what my point is? Then be accused using black magic, many emotional people, who have vested interests in outcomes, tend to have blurred vision!

[Zaroku]

Two new marvel super heroes decided to have it out and decide who had the greater super hero powers.

Let's call hero # 1. Mman
His powers are countering any skills his opponents have. He has the ability to be mobile, and fire his weapons moving forward, backward, inside, outside. He is undefeated and has never been knocked out. He is cautious because winning is what he values, but he values money more.
He also has a big ego and talks lots of ****! Mman always gets away from danger, running or holding! Mman also had a very controversial IV.

Hero #2 we will call him Pman.

Pman has a great punch, comes forward, but can't fight well backing up! Pman has defeated many great fighters, even though he is smaller!
But Pman has lost. He got hit with a kryptonite punch and lost all his powers for several minutes, and had to get brain scans after.

So Mman vs Pman finally fought, it happened!
And Pman lost! 8 to 4 rds. But uncharacteristically Pman suddenly remembered his shoulder injury. The same pre fight injury he failed to report! If Pman read and understood the legal document and disclosed his injury, he would have been able to get his meds!

Comic book super hero ****! I think iron man would whip batman any time!

[Zaroku]

2:36 from Khan context
5:05 Dan Rafael

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c_m19vyYF8

However, my brother, you might as well just watch the whole new flashback documentary. It's all objective.

Great video! Lots of great stuff in it!
Too much to list! I have been looking at lots of other articles, but I stopped!
Some people just see what they want to see!

Take it easy my brother, Floyd has got to be strong to fend off ****** **** all the time!

[SilverMiles]

How? Manny coming from 108 or whatever is highly su****ious to many! Floyd IV, Marquez and the Roid dealer on his team? But they all hire shady characters! They all have worked with very questionable strength coaches!

Many fighters fought at 108 as teenagers. Even James Kirkland fought at 108 as a teenager. I'm pretty sure many of us have gained 39 pounds since 15.

If your only cause of su****ion is weight again, than again you have nothing against Manny to suggest him being dirty. Ariza wasn't su****ious until Floyds false claims. I never once saw a post saying Ariza was a su****ious character when working with Corrales back in 2001.

It's sad people are sheep and can't even form their own opinion without being lead to it.

[boxinghead530]

I was being more general than direct with the cop out comment but still I can't say Manny is guilty of anything without something backing it. He isn't with a known steroid dealer and he's not using tactics used by a known steroid user.


I see your point but of the three Mayweather and Marquez are way more su****ious than Manny.

I'm a fan of the sport too but to just accuse someone of cheating without one even piece of evidence is insane to me.

Look I love Pacquiao, I have been a fan since his debut on HBO against the African kid. I even went to see him train at a gym in Berkeley when he was getting ready to fight David diaz. Do I think he is dirty because he started from a lower weight and moved up so to welter, no. Was he with a know steroid dealer, IDK. Just don't act like Ariza is not in the know when it comes to PED. The dude is trainer in the steroid era of sports, and you have to know about that stuff. Right now hes incahoots with Memo now so what makes you think he has never had knowledge before? I just think in this era of sport nobody is above su****ion and IMO evidence or not, paper trail or not Pacquuiao is highly su****ious. Sucks but that's how I feel. Could that possibly not be true, maybe but im not going to act like this dude is some saint. Plus his body showed signed of PED use. BTW there is no paper trail for Marquez either, so he must be clean

[Lester Tutor]

Look I love Pacquiao, I have been a fan since his debut on HBO against the African kid. I even went to see him train at a gym in Berkeley when he was getting ready to fight David diaz. Do I think he is dirty because he started from a lower weight and moved up so to welter, no. Was he with a know steroid dealer, IDK. Just don't act like Ariza is not in the know when it comes to PED. The dude is trainer in the steroid era of sports, and you have to know about that stuff. Right now hes incahoots with Memo now so what makes you think he has never had knowledge better? I just think in this era of sport nobody is above su****ion and IMO evidence or not, paper trail or not Pacquuiao is highly su****ious. Sucks but that's how I feel. Could that possibly not be true, maybe but im not going to act like this dude is some saint. Plus his body showed signed of PED use. BTW there is no paper trail for Marquez either, so he must be clean

At least reading objective comments like this are reassuring, and as I pointed out in my earlier videos if one person is suspect in the sport of non regulated boxing then why can't any boxer be suspect? I appreciate your points and sarcasm, I agree. Also, regarding Ariza and his ''trail,'' you'd think Floyd and his team of advisors would know about that essence around the TMT gym. Ironically, the same logic applies to Victor Conte ''advisory,'' Hauser, Top Rank, BWAA and HBO.

[Lester Tutor]

Great video! Lots of great stuff in it!
Too much to list! I have been looking at lots of other articles, but I stopped!
Some people just see what they want to see!

Take it easy my brother, Floyd has got to be strong to fend off ****** **** all the time!

No problem bro. Regarding the Amir Khan double standard of stating ''Olympic'' testing which I pointed out to these kids, does anybody want to defend Khan's stance?

I hear crickets.

[GTTofAK]

I may or may not respond to your post! I reserve the right to do so, when I can spare more time, or feel there is some value to doing so!


But if you are interested. The reason why I jumped in on what you wrote was it was all encompassing!

Please do not read the below!
Please never read or think about the below! Any true Olympic drug testing advocate will never, ever read the below text! Promise me you won't read it!

In philosophy, a formal fallacy is a pattern of reasoning rendered invalid by a flaw in its logical structure that can neatly be expressed in a standard logic system, for example propositional logic.[1] An argument that is formally fallacious is always considered wrong. A formal fallacy is contrasted with an informal fallacy, which may have a valid logical form and yet be unsound because one or more premises are false.

The presence of a formal fallacy in a deductive argument does not imply anything about the argument's premises or its conclusion. Both may actually be true, or even more probable as a result of the argument, but the deductive argument is still invalid because the conclusion does not follow from the premises in the manner described. By extension, an argument can contain a formal fallacy even if the argument is not a deductive one; for instance an inductive argument that incorrectly applies principles of probability or causality can be said to commit a formal fallacy.

"Fallacious arguments usually have the deceptive appearance of being good arguments."[2] Recognizing fallacies in everyday arguments may be difficult since arguments are often embedded in rhetorical patterns that obscure the logical connections between statements. Informal fallacies may also exploit the emotional, intellectual, or psychological weaknesses of the audience. Having the capability to recognize fallacies in arguments is one way to reduce the likelihood of such occurrences.

Wikipedia

**** off you piece of ****. How is that for philosophy you ignorant Froid ****sucker.

[GTTofAK]

Just don't act like Ariza is not in the know when it comes to PED.

He is not. Why do you think he had to bring Memo in? Froid was paying Ariza for something that Ariza couldn't deliver so he subcontracted.

[bigjavi973]

Floyd Mayweather Jr. Full fights thread:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=689303