Comments Thread For: HBO Sports Exec on The Rise of Gennady Golovkin

[tiliheels]

Your right about GGG, he is willing to fight Canelo and Cotto, but is hesitant to fight Ward because of the fear of losing. Wilder though had one test in his whole career and that's Stiverne.

And no, neither of them should see P4P list.

malik scott was meant to be a test and actually had a good win prior to wilder..he just either took a dive or got ko'd by his own glove

scott should be a 1 loss fighter at this point the uK ref robbed him with chisora..chisora is tyson's best win and scott was handling him just as well

[NEETzsche]

if he gets his shot at the alvarez/cotto winner and impresses, that pretty much puts him at the top of the pile once mayweather and pacquiao are out of the picture. ppv isn't the be all and end all; golovkin-lee on standard hbo next year probably hits 1.6m-1.8m viewers (more if it occurs after golovkin-alvarez/cotto). mayweather and pacquiao were once in a generation phenomenons and, unlike golovkin, they had more than a decade each to build their profiles. maybe in three or four years some new force at 160/168 will come along and beat golovkin and inherit his status. derevyanchenko, andrade, falcao and murata seem to have a lot of promise

[tiliheels]

if he gets his shot at the alvarez/cotto winner and impresses, that pretty much puts him at the top of the pile once mayweather and pacquiao are out of the picture. ppv isn't the be all and end all; golovkin-lee on standard hbo next year probably hits 1.6m-1.8m viewers (more if it occurs after golovkin-alvarez/cotto). mayweather and pacquiao were once in a generation phenomenons and, unlike golovkin, they had more than a decade each to build their profiles. maybe in three or four years some new force at 160/168 will come along and beat golovkin and inherit his status. derevyanchenko, andrade, falcao and murata seem to have a lot of promise

took the words right out of my mouth with this post
...the hand speed, volume, length of andrade at 154 through 160 is just to much for ppl imo...that kid is a different type of animal

[Eff Pandas]

he has to win this fight to continue being a star..and now that they are putitng ggg on ppv i highly doubt that ward is going up in weight and missing that shot..GGG is getting heavier and heavier at 30 day weight in and rehydration..only reason he is still at 160 is for the 2 names he might get...his name is zurdo btw and he showed a few outboxing skill in his last fight when he had a reach advan on derick edwards i believe

Well its definitely better if he wins instead of loses, but I think if he loses closely & puts up a good fight its definitely not the end of his chances. Pacquiao lost earlier in his career, but more importantly vs Morales on the comeup & still became a PPV star. Froch got beat by Ward & is a bigger draw than Ward & iirc he was fighting on British PPV. Again obviously better if he does win, but I think he could arguable gained enough appeal vs Lemieux, Canalo or Cotto that a L to Ward is forgivable & its just a bump in the road not a accident that lands him in a ditch.

[NEETzsche]

took the words right out of my mouth with this post
...the hand speed, volume, length of andrade at 154 through 160 is just to much for ppl imo...that kid is a different type of animal

he is one of the best talents in the sport imo but he seems to have a dodgy attitude. also, he will apparently be on the pbc side of the fence soon

[Weebler I]

yea but the fact is u can put a number by any name u want to a number by these days..and on top of that MW is a horrible division and it really has been for the last 30 years or so...yes u have 1 or 2 dominant guys but the rest are always crap..ww's have to come up to make the division hot

The HW division is not known as strong but Wilder still refuses to fight top 10 opposition.

There really is no comparison, Wilder is your typical Haymon-managed protected cherrypicker and that's just the truth.

that is not true..he had 1 million ppl watching him..now can he fill out a staduim? not sure...but if pushed right and if he scalps the right ppl he might be bigger bc his record is better than GGG and ppl see him as more accomplished..
if he met rigo at 118 that could be his crowning moment or his career shortening day..i'd love that fight

Gonzalez hasn't even headlined an HBO card.

[tiliheels]

he is one of the best talents in the sport imo but he seems to have a dodgy attitude. also, he will apparently be on the pbc side of the fence soon

havent heard the pbc talk..if u mean dodgy attitude as in a fast mouth on the mic that could help him...the black boxer is now making money by being hated and ppll wanting to see him beat bc he talks to much

[Pigeons]

The rise of a scared coward unwilling to fight the best.

[tiliheels]

The HW division is not known as strong but Wilder still refuses to fight top 10 opposition.

There really is no comparison, Wilder is your typical Haymon-managed cherrypicker and that's just the truth.



Gonzalez hasn't even headlined an HBO card.

who is there to fight when u brake down the pbc vs everyone else its seems puzzle..he wants tyson and vlad winner as well...he has to fight povetkin so wats the rush...i dont see guys like pulev or tony thompson as something writers will praise him for...

and gonzales's bout on hbo had a 1 million plus views during the undercard..those numbers let you know that he is known..and he's from a boxing wonderland..

[HI-TECH Boxing]

choco and rigo should meet at 118...they are both about 124 in the ring..

i'd love to see a card that has choco rigo on teh undie...ggg vs ward as the main..i'd shell 100 bucks for that fight

That makes zero sense for Roman. He has way more fights at 112 and 115 rather than to go up and please Rigo.

i understand u saying that...but i also understand that the cans he crushed never were crush that way before..but imo that says just a bit more about the division being weak/mediocre than it does about him being great..i cant give him great until he's dominant at 168..not saying dominate 1 division cant make u great...but when i look through that division there is not another HOF unless he's fighting at 155...

oan i do think that if wilder was GGG's color he'd be on the P4P list the exact way...

How many HOF's did Hagler beat? 2? Both smaller than him.