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  • tiliheels
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    #31
    Originally posted by HI-TECH Boxing
    That makes zero sense for Roman. He has way more fights at 112 and 115 rather than to go up and please Rigo.




    How many HOF's did Hagler beat? 2? Both smaller than him.
    like it or not rigo is know..maybe not watched up ppl know he spanked donaires ass..and ppl see him as unbeatalbe..roman has fought at 115 and he actually missed weight when he fought there...he's 124 in the ring his last fight..it actually makes a lot of sense seing that rigo is small at 122..and he would be bringing rigo down in weight....not only rigo but inoue is there at 115 as well for a confidence boaster to move up to 118 if he win...gonzeles should fast track it while the names are there or he will be looked at as a little man that didnt have competition...

    hagler beat 3 hall guys...mugabi, hearns, duran

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      #32
      Originally posted by NEETzsche
      if he gets his shot at the alvarez/cotto winner and impresses, that pretty much puts him at the top of the pile once mayweather and pacquiao are out of the picture. ppv isn't the be all and end all; golovkin-lee on standard hbo next year probably hits 1.6m-1.8m viewers (more if it occurs after golovkin-alvarez/cotto). mayweather and pacquiao were once in a generation phenomenons and, unlike golovkin, they had more than a decade each to build their profiles. maybe in three or four years some new force at 160/168 will come along and beat golovkin and inherit his status. derevyanchenko, andrade, falcao and murata seem to have a lot of promise
      I think there is more talent in the MW in the amateurs. So look for someone to turn pro and take over. I like Derevyanchenko, but I'm still not sure. Andrade is talented, but he's just waisting it. I would favor GGG over Falcao and Murata. From the fighters already pro, Jason Quigley has a good shot at becoming a draw. He's Irish so that's of big help.
      But look out for some of the amateur fighters after next years Olympics.

      Originally posted by tiliheels
      like it or not rigo is know..maybe not watched up ppl know he spanked donaires ass..and ppl see him as unbeatalbe..roman has fought at 115 and he actually missed weight when he fought there...he's 124 in the ring his last fight..it actually makes a lot of sense seing that rigo is small at 122..and he would be bringing rigo down in weight....not only rigo but inoue is there at 115 as well for a confidence boaster to move up to 118 if he win...gonzeles should fast track it while the names are there or he will be looked at as a little man that didnt have competition...

      hagler beat 3 hall guys...mugabi, hearns, duran
      I'm a fan of Rigo, but that makes zero sense for Rigo. I know why you want him to move up, but Roman is not going to move up to please some fans when he still has work to do in his weight class and the two above before he fights at 122.
      At 112 he has Estrada II, Ruenroeng. At 115 he has Inoue, Cuadras and a few others. 118 also has fighters like Yamanaka.
      He's not going to move up a few weight classes to fight Rigo, when he has more fights left where he is at.

      Mugabi is not in the HOF, and didn't do enough to get in. He only has one title victory and what's his best win again?

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        #33
        Originally posted by skinnystev
        from what iv seen chocolatito looks to be even better than Triple GGG
        You are correct!

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          #34
          Originally posted by tiliheels
          who is there to fight when u brake down the pbc vs everyone else its seems puzzle..he wants tyson and vlad winner as well...he has to fight povetkin so wats the rush...i dont see guys like pulev or tony thompson as something writers will praise him for...
          Povetkin, Pulev, Chagaev, Cunningham, Takam, Teper even Arreola would be better than the unknown Frenchman & Eric Molina.

          and gonzales's bout on hbo had a 1 million plus views during the undercard..those numbers let you know that he is known..and he's from a boxing wonderland..
          Nicaragua is a boxing wonderland?

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            #35
            Originally posted by Weebler I
            Povetkin, Pulev, Chagaev, Cunningham, Takam, Teper even Arreola would be better than the unknown Frenchman & Eric Molina.



            Nicaragua is a boxing wonderland?
            AA and his loyal supporters should tell u when they get something special in boxing they run with it...its a coke wonder land for damn sure

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              #36
              Originally posted by Weebler I
              Golovkin has fought more top 10 opponents in one year than Wilder has fought in his whole career.
              depends on how you clarrify top 10, if youre talking about wba solely then yeah, but overall GGG has fought only two top 10 MW during his title reign of 14 defenses, Geale (no2) and Murray (no6), Wilder fought sitverne (no2) for the belt,not much between them when you look at the division as a whole and not their body sanctions.

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                #37
                Originally posted by HI-TECH Boxing


                I'm a fan of Rigo, but that makes zero sense for Rigo. I know why you want him to move up, but Roman is not going to move up to please some fans when he still has work to do in his weight class and the two above before he fights at 122.
                At 112 he has Estrada II, Ruenroeng. At 115 he has Inoue, Cuadras and a few others. 118 also has fighters like Yamanaka.
                He's not going to move up a few weight classes to fight Rigo, when he has more fights left where he is at.

                Mugabi is not in the HOF, and didn't do enough to get in. He only has one title victory and what's his best win again?
                mugabi is in the hall bro see for yourself..he cant get the estrada fight bc of money nobody going to pay him that much doe...and goodluck having hbo bring over oriental tia guys after that mess they pulled in with donaire fightin the asian who wouldnt punch

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by HI-TECH Boxing
                  That makes zero sense for Roman. He has way more fights at 112 and 115 rather than to go up and please Rigo.




                  How many HOF's did Hagler beat? 2? Both smaller than him.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ryedes
                    depends on how you clarrify top 10, if youre talking about wba solely then yeah, but overall GGG has fought only two top 10 MW during his title reign of 14 defenses, Geale (no2) and Murray (no6), Wilder fought sitverne (no2) for the belt,not much between them when you look at the division as a whole and not their body sanctions.
                    Ring top 10 (#9 Proksa, #6 Macklin, #9 Stevens, #2 Geale, #5 Rubio, #6 Murray, #4 Lemieux)

                    He also signed to fight Lee in 2013, who is now #2.

                    The equivalent to Golovkin at HW is Wlad, Wilder's MW equivalent is Quillin (and that's probably doing a slight disservice to Peter).

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by tiliheels
                      mugabi is in the hall bro see for yourself..he cant get the estrada fight bc of money nobody going to pay him that much doe...and goodluck having hbo bring over oriental tia guys after that mess they pulled in with donaire fightin the asian who wouldnt punch
                      Give me proof. Don't tell me it's the World Boxing Hall of Fame, everyone and their mothers makes that ****ty hall of fame. The International Boxing Hall of Fame isn't too bad, but when guys like Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini makes it, it just goes to show how easy it is to make the dang Hall of Fame. I don't even think Gatti deserved to get in tbh. But the WBHF is worse without a doubt. Either way Mugabi didn't accomplish anything in his career. I don't care what anyone tries to say to big-up that victory for Hagler.

                      You're just making assumptions, you don't know if those fights will happen or not. Even if they don't happen at 112, they will most likely happen at 115.
                      Chocolatito doesn't have to move up for freaking Rigo.
                      Rigo fans always want fighters to either move up or down for him, it's crazy.

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