The Man, The Myth, The Legend...... Miguel Cotto.

[Left Hook Tua]

I thought his win over Martinez was pretty good. Injury or not, Martinez doesn't go out easy and Cotto put a whoopin on'em.

serg is a good fighter.

solid win.

but considering serg was 40 yrs. old, unhealthy and inactive.....

is that really a win that makes one a great fighter?

[Beater_of_ass]

You're part of that group.

What am I upset about lol?

[Left Hook Tua]

So you reply to his comments, but choose to ignore mines?

i like your post.

you posting every little mediocre win and listing their rank proves my case.

especially the rankings.

we all know WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO are worthless, meaningless.

the ring is more accurate but still can be skewed by popularity/name recognition.

at 140 only one dude ranked by ring top 10. barely top 10 too. chop chop in 2005. chop lost 6 fights 2006-2008. lost 2 of his last 3 before cotto, he lost 20 FIGHTS since cotto.

147 judah and mosley. names nothing more. already pointed that out.

oktay urkal?

now clottey was a good fighter. good win. evenly matched. they had a very close fight.

that fight shows you at what level cotto really is.

a good fighter. not great.

[IronDanHamza]

i like your post.

you posting every little mediocre win and listing their rank proves my case.

especially the rankings.

we all know WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO are worthless, meaningless.

the ring is more accurate but still can be skewed by popularity/name recognition.

at 140 only one dude ranked by ring top 10. barely top 10 too. chop chop in 2005. chop lost 6 fights 2006-2008. lost 2 of his last 3 before cotto, he lost 20 FIGHTS since cotto.

147 judah and mosley. names nothing more. already pointed that out.

oktay urkal?

now clottey was a good fighter. good win. evenly matched. they had a very close fight.

that fight shows you at what level cotto really is.

a good fighter. not great.

I thought Clottey beat Cotto.

[IronDanHamza]

He fought Alvarez at a catch weight so it don't count. Remember he said the same thing about Pac when he fought at catch weights. Can't have it both ways.

Floyd can't have it both ways because he's the one that said it.

Did that poster say catchweights don't count?

[Left Hook Tua]

I thought Clottey beat Cotto.

it was close.

[IronDanHamza]

it was close.

No robbery but I felt Cotto was lucky.

Pacquaio fight was in the pipeline..

[Left Hook Tua]

listen. everyone is crying because i'm trashing cotto.

i think cotto is a good fighter. good skills.

but he's NOT great. skillswise or resumewise.

skillswise. when he's in there with a great fighter or good fighter, the disparity shows. either he is outmatched by a great or competitive with a good fighter. that shows his level.

resumewise. to be great, you have to either beat great fighters or if no greats around, dominate your division and beat all the good fighters around.

cotto was never the best in any division he was in.

he was never #1 or #2 or #3 p4p. he was top 10 p4p for a brief period.

how can a guy who never beat a great fighter, never the top guy in his division, never a top guy in his era be a great fighter?

[Left Hook Tua]

No robbery but I felt Cotto was lucky.

Pacquaio fight was in the pipeline..

i wish clottey put up a better fight vs. pac

winning no rounds and not punching really hurt him.

clottey was a good fighter. competitive with marg, cotto. he was around their level.

[bigjavi973]

i like your post.

you posting every little mediocre win and listing their rank proves my case.

especially the rankings.

we all know WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO are worthless, meaningless.

the ring is more accurate but still can be skewed by popularity/name recognition.

at 140 only one dude ranked by ring top 10. barely top 10 too. chop chop in 2005. chop lost 6 fights 2006-2008. lost 2 of his last 3 before cotto, he lost 20 FIGHTS since cotto.

147 judah and mosley. names nothing more. already pointed that out.

oktay urkal?

now clottey was a good fighter. good win. evenly matched. they had a very close fight.

that fight shows you at what level cotto really is.

a good fighter. not great.

Right here you can tell you're biased.

First you say that the Ring ranking matters more than the belt rankings. That Cotto had only one top 10 win which was Corley.

Then you go & say "Oh mosley & judah were just names". But don't bother to mention that they're ranked 5th & 3rd respectively by ring magazine.

Yes Urkal. As much as you might not like it, he was ranked 7th welterweight by ring magazine. The same rankings you said are the ones that matter.

and again you're being biased on the Clottey fight. "oh it shows what level he is". Yea sure. Bad cut above his eye from 3rd round on and still pulled off the victory.