Gennady Golovkin-Grzegorz Proksa 3 years ago

[cReal Killer]

If you count Hopkins defenses you have to count GGG's neither man was lineal champion originally but you have guys that count all of Hopkins defenses but change the rules when it comes to GGG.

[BrometheusBob.]

Boxers that ducked/ducking GGG

1---Felix sturm - wouldn't fight him for over 2 years when GGG was mandatory.

2---Peter quillin - said he will only fight for the may-pac kind of money, lol

3---Sergio martinez - "His promoter said that "no way I am putting him with this monster"

4---Hassaan ndam njikam -When Hassaan was WBO champ, he was ordered to a purse bid to face Golovkin no less than two times and he was a no show each time.

5---Miguel cotto - didn't want to fight him despite being mandatory.

6---Julio cesar chavez jr - Turned down 12mil offer by TR

7---Saul alvarez - Thinks that he is fighting at the weight-class of 155, as there is no such thing as a "155 weight-class" ,he is pretending to be not in the MW division because of GGG.There are 17 divisions just pick one, if you can't make 154 then you are a MW, simple.

8---Carl froch - After calling GGG out then when GGG accepted ,he backed down and now he is retired after making all the fuss, GGG was calling him for more than a year so no excuses for "retiring".

9---Andrea Ward. The diva of the 168lb division don't want to travel or meet the a-side GGG in a catchweight so he can become a good boy and get ktfo. Was willing to goto 160 for Floyd but when GGG said 164, Ward ducked.

10---Sebastian Sylvester - When Sylvester was IBF champ, he ducked GGG blatantly

11---Darren Barker - When Barker defeated Geale to become IBF champ, his promoter openly said that Barker will fight any1 except GGG

12---andy lee - recently in an interview said that I won't call-out GGG even after the reporter said that you must call him out because you are now a "champion" see below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMMpnyC6kDg

Yo that andy lee vid is hilarious. Dude is terrified.

Reminds me of the stuff Billy Joe Saunders has been saying. (@7:00)

Saunders: But Golovkin? I want him to have another two years, go up and down in weight, have a few hard fights. Another two years when I'm 27,28 ****, then get him.
Interviewer: You mean when he's potentially shot?
Saunders: Yeah that's what I'm saying.

EDIT: I don't agree that Ward is ducking him, GGG's team asked for a 164 catchweight from a fighter that fought 172 in his last fight.

[cReal Killer]

WTF are you talking about? GGG has 4 defenses of his WBA "Super" World title.

Hopkins defended LEGIT titles, not a "regular" title!

Are you seriously sayng that the WBA "Regular" title is a REAL world title?

Bhop had 12 title defenses of the IBF title, not a "regular" title like GGG.

GGG have 9 "Super" Defenses. "Super" and "Regular" only applies when there are two Champs at 1 division. So when Geale was striiped, GGG has been the 1 and ONLY WBA champ at 160 until Jacobs became "Regular" champ.

Geale was stripped of his "Super" WBA on 2-nov-2012 after two months of unifying because he chose Mundine, so GGG became WBA Super/Sole champ at MW in nov-2012 and then he fought Rosado in jan-2013 so from Rosado to Monroe, Jr. he has 9 defenses SO Lemiux is his 10th.

sorces:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/more-sports/boxing/wba-strips-daniel-geale-of-middleweight-title-for-fighting-anthony-mundine-instead-of-gennardy-golovkin/story-e6frf5h3-1226509061727#.UQvGwb89OSp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Geale#Title_unification_against_Felix_Sturm_.26_2nd_Major_Title

http://boxrec.com/boxer/356831

http://wbanews.com/?page_id=2513

[BrometheusBob.]

GGG have 9 "Super" Defenses.

Geale was stripped of his "Super" WBA on 2-nov-2012 after two months of unifying because he chose Mundine, so GGG became WBA "Super" champ at MW in nov-2012 and then he fought Rosado in jan-2013 so from Rosado to Monroe, Jr. he has 9 defenses SO Lemiux is his 10th.

sorces:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/more-sports/boxing/wba-strips-daniel-geale-of-middleweight-title-for-fighting-anthony-mundine-instead-of-gennardy-golovkin/story-e6frf5h3-1226509061727#.UQvGwb89OSp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Geale#Title_unification_against_Felix_Sturm_.26_2nd_Major_Title

http://boxrec.com/boxer/356831

http://wbanews.com/?page_id=2513

Well GGG didn't get the Super World until he fought Geale, so I guess it was vacant after Geale vacated it. Nothing you have linked suggests that GGG was immediately promoted to super champ, but it's worth noting that there was no super champ for several defenses of his world title.

[cReal Killer]

Well GGG didn't get the Super World until he fought Geale, so I guess it was vacant after Geale vacated it. Nothing you have linked suggests that GGG was immediately promoted to super champ, but it's worth noting that there was no super champ for several defenses of his world title.

I edited it, its much clear now.

"Super" and Sole/Only WBA champ means the same thing.

[BrometheusBob.]

I edited it, its much clear now.

"Super" and Sole/Only WBA champ means the same thing.

Right, ok I can agree now. I guess the regular champ won't necessarily get promoted if the super champ is vacant, unless they can move someone into the regular world spot? Idk, all this stuff is rather weird.

[bigjavi973]

The second sentence is pure jibberish, wtf is that ****? Lara is more of a SWW champ than Floyd, who hasn't had a single defense at 154. Jacobs was just touted as the world champ on Pbc telecast, but he's not so legit since unlike the rest, he doesn't even feel ready to fight the " super" champ

If there is NO current "Super" champion, you get elevated to that status from "regular" to "super".

That's my fault... I should have added that they get elevated to "Super" champ with a couple of defenses of the "Regular" title. But if there's already a "Super" champ, they can not get elevated from "Regular".

[cReal Killer]

Right, ok I can agree now. I guess the regular champ won't necessarily get promoted if the super champ is vacant, unless they can move someone into the regular world spot? Idk, all this stuff is rather weird.

I can make it easier, I hope

"Regular" is the REAL/LEGIT champ unless there is a "Super"

"Super" only happens if WBA can't get the "Regular" and #1 contender in the same ring.

[cReal Killer]

Let me ask those who dont believe that GGG was the Legit/Real champ From his fights against Rosado to Lemiux because Geale vacated his "Super" on 2-nov-2012, WHO IS THE WBA "SUPER" champ in these division

Heavyweight
Cruiserweight
Junior welterweight
Lightweight
Junior bantamweight
Junior flyweight
Minimumweight

So u see just like the WBA champs of these division like Klitchko,Lebedev etc, GGG was the "Real" WBA champ from 2-nov-2012 to present.

AGAIN, "Regular"="Super" unless there is a "Super"

[bigjavi973]

GGG have 9 "Super" Defenses. "Super" and "Regular" only applies when there are two Champs at 1 division. So when Geale was striiped, GGG has been the 1 and ONLY WBA champ at 160 until Jacobs became "Regular" champ.

Geale was stripped of his "Super" WBA on 2-nov-2012 after two months of unifying because he chose Mundine, so GGG became WBA Super/Sole champ at MW in nov-2012 and then he fought Rosado in jan-2013 so from Rosado to Monroe, Jr. he has 9 defenses SO Lemiux is his 10th.

sorces:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/more-sports/boxing/wba-strips-daniel-geale-of-middleweight-title-for-fighting-anthony-mundine-instead-of-gennardy-golovkin/story-e6frf5h3-1226509061727#.UQvGwb89OSp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Geale#Title_unification_against_Felix_Sturm_.26_2nd_Major_Title

http://boxrec.com/boxer/356831

http://wbanews.com/?page_id=2513

So you saying that GGG defending his title against cans isnt a joke. Its actually true!?