Why don't any boxers use this kind of stance anymore?

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  • SplitSecond
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    #11
    Originally posted by Red Cyclone
    Shut your dumbass up you trying to tell me no black fighter used this style...
    ****ing racist POS, gtfo.
    I'm not saying no black fighters used this style, I'm saying white boys invented it.

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    • kafkod
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      #12
      Originally posted by SplitSecond
      That's the white boy style, the white boy don't/didn't know sht about proper mechanics.

      It looks like the lean back from everything style the ******ed kids on the street use when fighting. They called it the Limbo.

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        #13
        where are all the equality **** when someone talks **** about the white man for no reason?

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        • kafkod
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          #14
          Did they really use that stance for fighting back then, or just while posing for photos?

          Here's Philadelphia Jack O'Brian. Is he really demonstrating the 1910 version of the philly shell?

          Last edited by kafkod; 09-02-2015, 06:38 AM.

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            • Jc8804
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              #16
              Some fighters offense is their defense.

              Some of you are so dumb its funny.
              Boxing and baseball didnt evolve much.

              Wlad uses that style and picks on black fighters if you wanna get technical

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                #17
                You know guys.... a little knowledge goes a long way.

                Fighting with smaller gloves means more of a direct connection when hitting. The foward lead punch was done from that stance without turning the hand over, a little piston action to the chin usually and it was often a ko punch. When you introduce larger gloves you break this connection and need to square up more, turn the arm over (which is how this punch became the jab) and that is why this stance change.

                this stance is the most biomechanically correct way to hit, but one cannot transfer the blow with larger gloves. Also this stance allows many more variations in how to defend and attack...James Figg used a fencing vocabulary to teach boxing, orginally one could retreat, lunge, etc. In this stance one can very quickly come back foot to front, close to grips, and avoid blows with footwork.

                When boxing developed its own vocabulary guys started to change stances to reflect the specific concerns of punching. Still, this was a good method and allows one short crisp punching and the ******* use of footwork.

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                  #18
                  You can still use that stance.

                  Boxers of that era fought more on the inside/in the clinches.

                  Nowadays referees think working inside or with one arm free from the clinch is something that shouldn't happen. It's very weird and idiotic

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    Did they really use that stance for fighting back then, or just while posing for photos?

                    Here's Philadelphia Jack O'Brian. Is he really demonstrating the 1910 version of the philly shell?

                    Actually because attacks were often distinct from other movements involving counters, etc, when a fighter attacked they looked like they were running in towards the opponent....Makes sense actually because why square up except if you are attacking? why expose more of your body to attacks?

                    You will find many pics of Johnson in this pose as he goes in to attack and again it can be reduced to the principle: If I want to hit you with both hands, both hands should be foward from the shoulder line.

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                    • ostinato
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by SplitSecond
                      I'm not saying no black fighters used this style, I'm saying white boys invented it.

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