Comments Thread For: Farhood: Hearns, Hagler and Leonard Beat Mayweather

[The Big Dunn]

Like it's not a stretch to believe a SFW would beat a Flyweight

It's not, which is one of the reasons I couldn't understand so many posters on NSB picking Manny to beat Floyd.

[St. Johns Gent]

the way i see it, everyone says "oh if floyd fought hearns in his prime bla bla bla...", "oh if floyd fought duran in his prime yada yada yada...", "oh if floyd fought chavez in his prime..." well guess what Floyd has always been in his prime, there is no "no mas" performances in his career, there are no SRL performances like he had with Duran in the first fight or Hearns in the second fight, there are no Hearns performances like Tommy had in his first fight against Sugar where he just let it go, and Floyd never got knocked out of the ring like Ray Robinson "in his prime", Floyd has always been in his prime, has never been cut, never been down......bottom line Floyd Mayweather has always been in his prime and has never had a bad night

[deathofaclown]

There's a lot of double standards when it comes to fighters of the past and Floyd.

Floyd would never have lost to anybody on the level of Willie Monroe like Hagler did. Which shows how difficult it is to move through the ranks and stay undefeated, nevermind reach almost 40 years old and fought pretty much every big name of your era and never turn up out of shape, get caught with a shot, have an off night. If it's that simple, why don't more people manage it?

Mayweather would be crucified for fighting someone like Bruce Finch like Leonard did, as he is with Berto.

I think Floyd v Hagler is unrealistic, Floyd has no business at 160.

P4P Floyd could possibly beat them all. I don't believe at all he is a class below them. He would be in good company and could definitely hang with them. If he had multiple fights and ongoing rivalries with them all, he might lose some but i believe he would win some too.

[Fetta]

Floyd is side-by-side with the ATG's.

Can he beat them? Thats opinion but hes in conversation

[tokon]

I agree, hypothetically if Floyd were to fight them in their primes, he would lose.

In all fairness Hagler was a MW, and Floyd has no business fight at 160.

I don't think Floyd would have fought Hearns. He would stay at 140 and wait until Hearns moved up to 154 before going up to WW.

And I think Sugar Ray and Floyd would have ducked each other until they're both in their 40s. In this situation, Floyd would win, considering how he's aged a lot better. But prime vs prime, Sugar Ray wins.

All three at their best are naturally bigger men; Leonard is the only one close to Mayweather and even he was bigger.

[ea22]

Let me ask some of you something, do you guys think that prime for prime Castillo was better than Duran, or that Maidana was close to the level of Leonard or Hearns? Those two guys gave Floyd a lot of problems(and Floyd made Maidana wear pillows), how do you think he deals with guys like Duran, Leonard and Hearns? I won't mention Hagler, since he was a middleweight.

[Dle]

All things are possible. Depends on what point of Hearns, Hagler, or Leaonard is at. Classic example: Hagler generally would have tore leaonards head off at a different point of his career just as Canelo should have crushed Mayweather. All speculation.

[MrClutch85]

Sugar Ray Leonard he wasn't hard to find he's hittable I think Mayweather defensive skills counter punching skills he could beat him

Thomas Hearns has 6 inch reach advantage great jab killer right hand Mayweather has good jab defense the speed to pot shot him from the outside with left hooks lead right hands. Hearns would win 7-5

[steeve steel]

Money is the best business man... not the best boxer. Nuance!

[UNBIASED BOXING]

There's a lot of double standards when it comes to fighters of the past and Floyd.

Floyd would never have lost to anybody on the level of Willie Monroe like Hagler did. Which shows how difficult it is to move through the ranks and stay undefeated, nevermind reach almost 40 years old and fought pretty much every big name of your era and never turn up out of shape, get caught with a shot, have an off night. If it's that simple, why don't more people manage it?

Mayweather would be crucified for fighting someone like Bruce Finch like Leonard did, as he is with Berto.

I think Floyd v Hagler is unrealistic, Floyd has no business at 160.

P4P Floyd could possibly beat them all. I don't believe at all he is a class below them. He would be in good company and could definitely hang with them. If he had multiple fights and ongoing rivalries with them all, he might lose some but i believe he would win some too.

If it's that simple, why don't more people manage it?

I believe Floyd lost the first fight against Castillo. Yes, he dominated the second, and he has never lost any other fight, but that's the one fight I believe he really should have lost. He might not have been at his best, but well... that's what happens in boxing. Rarely do fighters fight one another at their best.

Floyd would never have lost to anybody on the level of Willie Monroe like Hagler did.

Hagler redeemed all of his losses, except to Leonard, who never re-matched him. Hell, I believe the original fight could have gone either way to be honest. True, it is difficult to retire undefeated, even against opponents you would never expect to lose to. The point is, we all know those fighters are not as good as them despite that loss. A loss doesn't say all about a fighter.

I think Floyd v Hagler is unrealistic, Floyd has no business at 160.

Hagler would have been fighting at a lower weight class by today's standard. They had the fight on the same day as the weigh-in back then. In fact, he could have potentially fought at Welterweight if he wanted to. The fight could very well have happened--- if not at Welterweight, even a catch weight at 150-152 would have made it possible. JMW would probably be Hagler's ideal division.

P4P Floyd could possibly beat them all.

I firmly believe Hearns would have beaten Floyd. Hell, I believe Hearns was the greatest Welterweight (even though he lost to Leonard) to exist. I think I would probably put Leonard at #2, maybe.

But that's okay, because Floyd was a monster at SFW and Lightweight.