Comments Thread For: Mayweather: Being in a Toe To Toe Battle is Not Good

[UNBIASED BOXING]

Could you provide some examples of these "true warriors" who are now retired?

Hagler vs Hearns, maybe?

[bigjer88]

Hagler vs Hearns, maybe?

I think Hagler is a great example of a toe-to-toe warrior who has not suffered a notable diminution of brain-power later in life (as far as I know...). I don't know that you can say the same about Hearns.

My point (which may be an obvious one) is that if you subscribe to DeFiance's definition of a "true warrior," there are very, very few who actually make the list. And most of those who do satisfy the definition have short careers at the top, suffer a serious drop in cognitive ability later in life, or/and wind up broke.

DeFiance's definition of "true warrior" is for cartoons and comic books.

At the lighter weights, Floyd was a great finisher. As he moved up in weight (and age), less so. He's been at the top for almost 20 years. He still appears to have his brain. All the power to him.

[ea22]

Could you provide some examples of these "true warriors" who are now retired?

Whenever you devote yourself to something there is a price be it mental or physical. In search of greatness men spend a great deal of their selves, that's why guys like Ali or Frazier are revered. This is the fight game, it doesn't take a genius to see that getting punched in the face isn't good for you, but there is a price for everything. So yes they might end up damaged, that is almost inevitable, but all fighters know that going in.

So I suppose to answer your question, Frazier is dead, and Ali is doing terribly health wise, but he left a great legacy behind and that is worth something.

[bigjer88]

Whenever you devote yourself to something there is a price be it mental or physical. In search of greatness men spend a great deal of their selves, that's why guys like Ali or Frazier are revered. This is the fight game, it doesn't take a genius to see that getting punched in the face isn't good for you, but there is a price for everything. So yes they might end up damaged, that is almost inevitable, but all fighters know that going in.

So I suppose to answer your question, Frazier is dead, and Ali is doing terribly health wise, but he left a great legacy behind and that is worth something.

That's part of my point...true. But my other point is that I don't find fault with great ones who have managed to avoid the Frazier/Ali type fate. Yea - Floyd's legacy may suffer the consequences, but the type of condemnation he receives from people on this site is pretty ridiculous. He sacrified for everything he has.

I say all this, and I don't even like him! I can't stand his public persona, and I'm not going to buy the Berto fight. But I think the keyboard warriors who pretend to know what a "true warrior" is should get off their high horses and have some humility.

[ostinato]

This should help skyrocket the already insane hype for this fight.

[therealpugilist]

I think Hagler is a great example of a toe-to-toe warrior who has not suffered a notable diminution of brain-power later in life (as far as I know...). I don't know that you can say the same about Hearns.

My point (which may be an obvious one) is that if you subscribe to DeFiance's definition of a "true warrior," there are very, very few who actually make the list. And most of those who do satisfy the definition have short careers at the top, suffer a serious drop in cognitive ability later in life, or/and wind up broke.

DeFiance's definition of "true warrior" is for cartoons and comic books.

At the lighter weights, Floyd was a great finisher. As he moved up in weight (and age), less so. He's been at the top for almost 20 years. He still appears to have his brain. All the power to him.

most times the only people talking about warriors are people who were never involved in combat sports to begin with


how can you empathize with a fighter if you've never trained, sparred are got hit before...in a street fight its either fight or flight....in the boxing ring, you cant run or hide....its the loneliest place in the world and last time I checked being a warrior isn't gonna cover medical bills, raise your kids, or keep your body preserved...defense does that

[Fetta]

Off subject: i have a bet i have to pay cause Mares was cheated but dont know how to.