Comments Thread For: Loeffler: Fans Should Criticize Fighters Ducking Golovkin
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U seem a bit off course , please allow me to right your ship . I don't think anyone is criticizing GGG for wanting to fight the lineal champ in his weight class . Lets not get amnesia , GGG has constructed a solid name for himself by KOing opponents and partially by using Wards name to align his own with greatness while simultaneously pretending he'll fight him in his own weight class . When GGG's stock really started to rise it was because of his bold Ward proclamation . Now he's since backed away from his bold proclamation by adding catch weights to it . This is how and why the ire got sooo hot and steamy . So understand that the flak he's receiving is not totally undue as he's made a difficult bed for himself because he's offered boxing fans filet mignon , but when we arrived at the banquet he passed out steak em's . It's the ultimate bait and switch ! Even if he wants to fight Lemioux first , fine , but I think he needs to at least verbalize a commitment to fight Ward at 168Loeffler is right.
GGG is the only fighter I know that gets criticized by his haters for wanting to fight the lineal champion in his weight class. I don't know If I've ever seen another fighter criticized for something like that. Instead they want him to move up in weight and fight a guy in a higher weight class. The Lineal champion, whoever it ends up being, should get criticized for avoiding him.
The reasons why the GGG haters don't want him to face Cotto is because they know GGG has a very good shot of winning that fight. Cotto is one of the top 3 biggest names in boxing, he's a huge attraction and If GGG does win that fight, then the hype machine behind him will only get bigger, he'll get even more coverage and exposure than he gets now and that will absolutely Infuriate them. They want GGG hype to end immediately, they want him to fight the toughest opponent possible opponent who is not even in his weight class.
The funny thing is Cotto is being praised by these haters for avoiding GGG. Like "Yea good job Cotto, **** GGG, what ever you do don't fight him and make him more popular than he is"Comment
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Andre Ward gets a pass to stay at one weight class and fight in one location. Anyone else, outside of Floyd and Andre, doesn't get a pass. I wonder why that is.Comment
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Golovkin isn't a coward because he wants to fight Cotto. He's a coward because he won't fight Ward even though it's clear Cotto won't fight him. He won't fight Ward at 168 even though he's agreed to two other fights at that weight. He won't do it because he's scared. He's afraid to be great. He is a b*tchass businessman killing this sport with his business moves.
If he gets Cotto after Lemieux, great! Good for him. If not, he better move up and fight Ward otherwise everybody that calls him a coward will be proven right. I won't get my hopes up.Comment
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My question for the haters is why should Golovkin go up to 68 and fight Ward, a guy who has NO FAN BASE to speak of, and then have to come back down to 60 to fight Cotto or Canelo? He has already offered Ward a 50/50 split on ALL the cash and the two meet in the middle on the weight. What is the problem?
Ward has made several of his last opponents come down and weaken a full 7 pounds in order to fight him and taken at LEAST 80% of the cash! Gennady is asking for him to come down 4 POUNDS and he will come up 4, that seems fair for a guy(Ward) whose career is basically in the toilet by his own hand. At least Golovkin is offering Ward a FAIR deal, unlike what Ward offered many of his opponents in the past 3-4 yrs.Last edited by doninlouisiana; 08-31-2015, 06:13 PM.Comment
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I don't think fans care where fighters fight , at least I don't . The only time that really matters is when u get decisions like Froch did in Nottingham against Dirrell . Barring those type of home cooked meals what does it really matter especially considering Ward beats everyone pretty handily throughout 12 . I don't think I've ever witnessed anyone form the rowdy Oakland crowd sneak in the ring and help him , but correct me if I'm wrong .Last edited by SugarRaRobinson; 08-31-2015, 06:30 PM.Comment
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He shouldn't have to go to 168 to fight Ward , but he shouldn't say he's willing to if hes not either .My question for the haters is why should Golovkin go up to 68 and fight Ward, a guy who has NO FAN BASE to speak of, and then have to come back down to 60 to fight Cotto or Canelo? He has already offered Ward a 50/50 split on ALL the cash and the two meet in the middle on the weight. What is the problem?
Ward has made several of his last opponents come down and weaken a full 7 pounds in order to fight him and taken at LEAST 80% of the cash! Gennady is asking for him to come down 4 POUNDS and he will come up 4, that seems fair for a guy(Ward) whose career is basically in the toilet by his own hand. At least Golovkin is offering Ward a FAIR deal, unlike what Ward offered many of his opponents in the past 3-4 yrs.Comment
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The catchweight demand did not come from Ward.They didn't refuse to negotiate on the weight. There were no negotiations, period. Or if there was, they were never reported.
Loeffler was in the middle of negotiating with Lemieux when this all blew up. No way was he going to drop that and start talking about moving up for Ward instead, and Ward's team knew it.
Imo, this was just a publicity stunt by Ward. He was thinking about fighting on the Cotto/Canelo undercard and wanted to remind everybody that he was still alive.
After being criticised for that catchweight demand, Team Golovkin were contacted for comment..... they re-affirmed that they will not fight Ward unless he agrees to 164.
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You have NO IDEA if that is true !
Not a clue !
I doubt that fight ever happens, GGG clearly dont want none of Ward.
Ward publicly confirmed that he is a SMW, and that he can make 168.Comment
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Agreed !
A lot more reasonable than fighting Froch/Chavez at 168, but not Ward.
I dont agree that Ward/Golovkin will eventually happen.
Team Golovkin have a marketing plan, and it clearly dont include Ward.Comment
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Do you still think that..... "any boxer who publicly called out a smaller man..... then refused to even discuss a CW, would be viewed as a cherry picking coward"..... but then for some inexplicable reason you do not think that your theory should apply to Golovkin/Cotto
I bet you wish you could crawl up your own ass and hide for saying that

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GGG vs Ward will likely go down eventually, but for now stop crying and enjoy the fireworks coming our way.
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