True or False: James Toney's win over Michael Nunn is better than any win of Floyd's?

[Johnwoo8686]

what a surprise you think compubox is accurate. that shows that you don't really care about facts or nuance when breaking down fights. derp well the compubox machine said floyd is winning so he must be.

if you think manny was as aggressive in 2015 as he was in 2009/2010 then you are insane. did you miss his fights against algeiri, rios, and bradley? the last time pac tried to be aggressive he got ktfo. since then he has been pac the boxer which obviously suits floyd better. just like when floyd fought cotto it was cotto the boxer. those fighters had to evolve to stay relevant in boxing because their age didn't let them do the same style. that's a young man's style and although they are very good at traditional boxing they aren't as good as floyd so floyd picked them after they had changed.

floyd was the one who kept changing his demands. he was clearly holding up the fight. he even admitted this after the fight. if you had followed that whole situation you would know it was cbs and showtime that forced floyd to fight pac because they were losing money on the floyd deal so they said its pac or nobody.

How old are you, 12? Where in my statement did I ever credit compubox? Show me where. I don't need compubox to tell me Floyd landed more punches than Manny in round 6 I could see it for myself. If you know what a landed punch is then you would know Floyd outlanded Manny in round 6. But Manny was still given the round due to landing harder shots. So your assessment that all Floyd has to do is keep from getting dominated in a round not to lose that round is completely false. It was Freddie Roach who said Manny had a better chance of beating Floyd in 2015 not me. I'm sure Freddie knows his fighter better than you or I do. He said Floyd's legs were slowing down therefore Manny could capitalize on that.

Floyd kept changing the demands? If that is true why didn't Manny just agree to them back then because he certainly agreed to them in 2015. Floyd still got blood testing, still got the majority of the purse, and still got the fight at the MGM grand. It just looks like Manny and his team held off on the fight and not the other way around.

[daggum]

How old are you, 12? Where in my statement did I ever credit compubox? Show me where. I don't need compubox to tell me Floyd landed more punches than Manny in round 6 I could see it for myself. If you know what a landed punch is then you would know Floyd outlanded Manny in round 6. But Manny was still given the round due to landing harder shots. So your assessment that all Floyd has to do is keep from getting dominated in a round not to lose that round is completely false. It was Freddie Roach who said Manny had a better chance of beating Floyd in 2015 not me. I'm sure Freddie knows his fighter better than you or I do. He said Floyd's legs were slowing down therefore Manny could capitalize on that.

Floyd kept changing the demands? If that is true why didn't Manny just agree to them back then because he certainly agreed to them in 2015. Floyd still got blood testing, still got the majority of the purse, and still got the fight at the MGM grand. It just looks like Manny and his team held off on the fight and not the other way around.

what do you mean if that is true? there are countless articles on how floyd kept changing his demands. if floyd wanted the fight why would he do that? how do you fight a guy who keeps changing his demands please tell me? do you agree to things before he changes them? is that even possible? pac's team agreed to full blood testing in 2010 so that wasn't even an issue. floyd only agreed to give pac 40 million dollars and no ppv. was that a fair offer for a 500 million dollar fight? he was forced to give pac a fair offer when showtime/cbs forced him to fight pac and nobody else. that is when the fight was made. it's clearly documented. do some research instead of being a fanboy. it doesn't matter what roach says about the fight because he's an imbecile. he contradicts himself so much you might as well be quoting the bible or something. floyd's legs didn't win him the fight his holding/bending below the waist did in order to stop and reset the action. i assume he would have been able to do that in 2010 as well except he would have to do it more against a more active pac and maybe the ref dq's him but probably not seeing as he's floyd the money man. it was a fight that really never should have happened because it just exposed the corruption in boxing to a much bigger audience. they thougth they were watching a fight lol! floyd made sure that wasn't happening. another one of his skills and talents i guess you could say. breaking the rules and having kenny bayless there to tell you how good you are doing at breaking the rules.

[soul_survivor]

Nunn was an exceptional fighter at the time, the Curry and Starling wins don't do much for me, as neither man was suited to MW but beating the likes of Tate and Kalambay and the fashion in which he did that was just so damn impressive.

It would be comparable to Mayweather beating Margarito coming off the Cotto win.

[daggum]

Nunn was an exceptional fighter at the time, the Curry and Starling wins don't do much for me, as neither man was suited to MW but beating the likes of Tate and Kalambay and the fashion in which he did that was just so damn impressive.

It would be comparable to Mayweather beating Margarito coming off the Cotto win.

yeah but if floyd beats marg in 2016 then all is forgiven right? floyd's just building up the fight. yes he could have taken 7 million in 2004/2005 but now he will earn 30 million to fight marg! how is that a duck!

[Johnwoo8686]

what do you mean if that is true? there are countless articles on how floyd kept changing his demands. if floyd wanted the fight why would he do that? how do you fight a guy who keeps changing his demands please tell me? do you agree to things before he changes them? is that even possible? pac's team agreed to full blood testing in 2010 so that wasn't even an issue. floyd only agreed to give pac 40 million dollars and no ppv. was that a fair offer for a 500 million dollar fight? he was forced to give pac a fair offer when showtime/cbs forced him to fight pac and nobody else. that is when the fight was made. it's clearly documented. do some research instead of being a fanboy. it doesn't matter what roach says about the fight because he's an imbecile. he contradicts himself so much you might as well be quoting the bible or something. floyd's legs didn't win him the fight his holding/bending below the waist did in order to stop and reset the action. i assume he would have been able to do that in 2010 as well except he would have to do it more and maybe the ref dq's him but probably not seeing as he's floyd the money man.

IT's called "negotiating." If Pac's team knew how to negotiate we would have seen this fight years ago. But they don't know how to negotiate. Even in the 2015 negotiation Floyd dominated everything. He got a bigger purse, blood testing, and the arena he wanted. Pac's team has mismanaged his career and you fanboys can't even see it. I've read that Pacquiao will receive as little as 26 million from the 150 million he made when all is said and done. Arum is getting as much as 30%. If Pac had left Arum years ago he probably would have made more money in the Floyd fight. Pac's team only agreed to the terms now because they stood to get rich.

And what do you mean what Roach says is irrelevant? He is Pacquiao's trainer. He was the one who was predicting that Pac was going to stop De La hoya, Hatton, and Cotto. And he was right. So I would assume he is also right when he says Floyd would have beaten Manny back in 2010.

[IronDanHamza]

I'm not sure but I do know that Floyd's resume is a lot better than Toney's.

[PivotandRoll]

what do you mean if that is true? there are countless articles on how floyd kept changing his demands. if floyd wanted the fight why would he do that? how do you fight a guy who keeps changing his demands please tell me? do you agree to things before he changes them? is that even possible? pac's team agreed to full blood testing in 2010 so that wasn't even an issue. floyd only agreed to give pac 40 million dollars and no ppv. was that a fair offer for a 500 million dollar fight? he was forced to give pac a fair offer when showtime/cbs forced him to fight pac and nobody else. that is when the fight was made. it's clearly documented. do some research instead of being a fanboy. it doesn't matter what roach says about the fight because he's an imbecile. he contradicts himself so much you might as well be quoting the bible or something. floyd's legs didn't win him the fight his holding/bending below the waist did in order to stop and reset the action. i assume he would have been able to do that in 2010 as well except he would have to do it more against a more active pac and maybe the ref dq's him but probably not seeing as he's floyd the money man. it was a fight that really never should have happened because it just exposed the corruption in boxing to a much bigger audience. they thougth they were watching a fight lol! floyd made sure that wasn't happening. another one of his skills and talents i guess you could say. breaking the rules and having kenny bayless there to tell you how good you are doing at breaking the rules.

You are pathetic... Seriously....how bad is your own life that Floyd's success upsets you so much? Seriously man the **** up and stop crying. Who hasn't he fought? What do you want from him?

[HEND]

past prime or not, Pac was a certified P4P #2 on basically every list when Mayweather beat him, so... Mayweather.

[Pac=Duran]

You are pathetic... Seriously....how bad is your own life that Floyd's success upsets you so much? Seriously man the **** up and stop crying. Who hasn't he fought? What do you want from him?

We wanted the Pac fight when Pac was still prime like 2009,10 or 11. We wanted him to fight the winner of Paul Williams and Martinez like he said he would instead of Victor Ortiz lol.

We want a guy who receives so much praise to have fought at least ONE All Time Great in their prime. Just one.

[Johnwoo8686]

We wanted the Pac fight when Pac was still prime like 2009,10 or 11. We wanted him to fight the winner of Paul Williams and Martinez like he said he would instead of Victor Ortiz lol.

We want a guy who receives so much praise to have fought at least ONE All Time Great in their prime. Just one.

Neither Paul Williams or Sergio Martinez are all time greats lol so what are you on about?