True or False: James Toney's win over Michael Nunn is better than any win of Floyd's?

[The Big Dunn]

Yeah I'll give them all a shout and make sure their training is up to standard lol

The success/failure of any and all boxers means sweet **** all to me in the grand scheme of things. I just call it as I see it.

No you don't, you whine about Floyd being favored against his opponents. Hey, don't hate on boxers that put in the work necessary to be great.

[Pac=Duran]

Nice, three of those guys were on the slide when he fought them (even the commentators were mentioning it before the fights were starting) and Sasakul was giving him the business right before the KO. Nothing really that impressive.

Barrera on the slide? Ledwaba on the slide? Cotto on the slide?

You are a god damn fool

[Pac=Duran]

No you don't, you whine about Floyd being favored against his opponents. Hey, don't hate on boxers that put in the work necessary to be great.

100% unbiased and I call it as I see it. Why would I be biased for or against Floyd? I'm no Filopino, I'm not American. I am just a 100% unbiased boxing fan. I can freely admit Floyd is a great fighter, but overrated to hell, and one that picks and choses who to fight and when to fight them.

Only a totally biased fool wouldn't recognise that Floyd needs every advantage in his corner before he fights a guy, if he fights them at all (Acietas, Kosta, Martinez, prime Cotto, Prime, Mosely, prime Pac, Margo and retiring when welter was red hot)

100% unbiased as always. When you see a thread or comment made by Pac=Duran you know you are reading 100% pure truth.

[The Big Dunn]

100% unbiased and I call it as I see it. Why would I be biased for or against Floyd? I'm no Filopino, I'm not American. I am just a 100% unbiased boxing fan. I can freely admit Floyd is a great fighter, but overrated to hell, and one that picks and choses who to fight and when to fight them.

Only a totally biased fool wouldn't recognise that Floyd needs every advantage in his corner before he fights a guy, if he fights them at all (Acietas, Kosta, Martinez, prime Cotto, Prime, Mosely, prime Pac, Margo and retiring when welter was red hot)

100% unbiased as always. When you see a thread or comment made by Pac=Duran you know you are reading 100% pure truth.

Hey, ODH, Cotto, Shane and Manny all chose to wait to fight Floyd. that is on them. Thtas like blaming Lennox Lewis for the Bowe fight not happening.

Every cash cow picks and chooses when he fights. Resting when welter was red hot-LOL.

It's cool man, with a name like Pac=Duran we know why you post the things you do about Floyd.

[Ahmed_Ismail]

Barrera on the slide? Ledwaba on the slide? Cotto on the slide?

You are a god damn fool

Barrera was a bit old but I wouldn't say on the slide, it's still a very good win for Pacquiao, Ledwaba was also a very good win considering the 2 weeks notice, but Cotto was arguably in the worst spot of his career at the time and there's no denying that.

[Pac=Duran]

Hey, ODH, Cotto, Shane and Manny all chose to wait to fight Floyd. that is on them. Thtas like blaming Lennox Lewis for the Bowe fight not happening.

Every cash cow picks and chooses when he fights. Resting when welter was red hot-LOL.

It's cool man, with a name like Pac=Duran we know why you post the things you do about Floyd.

100 unbiased at all times. Call it as I see every time.

Irish boxing fan with zero allegiances. Freely admit that Carl Frampton would get schooled by Rigo> Unbiased.

Huge Pac fan but freely admit that Marquez beat him by 2 or 3 rounds in their 3rd fight.

So you mean to tell me that Floyd took a break after the ODLH fight just because? Just a coincidence that he chose to retire when Margo, Cotto, Pac, Oscar rematch, Shane Mosely, Paul Williams etc etc were breathing down his neck?

Come on man, try to be a little bit more unbiased. You have to admit AT LEAST that the sun doesn't shine out of lil Floydie's @ss in every instance?

[The Big Dunn]

100 unbiased at all times. Call it as I see every time.

Irish boxing fan with zero allegiances. Freely admit that Carl Frampton would get schooled by Rigo> Unbiased.

Huge Pac fan but freely admit that Marquez beat him by 2 or 3 rounds in their 3rd fight.

So you mean to tell me that Floyd took a break after the ODLH fight just because? Just a coincidence that he chose to retire when Margo, Cotto, Pac, Oscar rematch, Shane Mosely, Paul Williams etc etc were breathing down his neck?

Come on man, try to be a little bit more unbiased. You have to admit AT LEAST that the sun doesn't shine out of lil Floydie's @ss in every instance?

Dude, exaggerating the "hotness" of the WW division to suit your agenda isn't 100% unbiased. According to Floyd, his hand were hurt, which is consistent with what we know. Now was it just his hands, IMO no. I think he let contenders fight each other. That happens all the time at every weight.

The truth is ODH, Shane, cotto and Manny all waited to fight Floyd. If you were truly 100% unbiased, you'd have pointed that out.

[New England]

Nunn's win and performance over Frank Tate was also incredible. I wish more people on here knew what the **** they were talking about. This could be a great place, too much quantity not enough quality

the problem with talking about a fighter like michael nunn, and toney's win over him, is that you're going back 20-30 years. most of us were too young to understand what a great boxer looks like, buy HBO/showtime, PPV, etc. i had grainy video of the nunn fight on my computer growing up. lost it when my hosue was hit by lightning. fights that you used to download on limewire, etc, were often ripped from a VHS recording of a TV broadcast, and would have bad quality.


anyway, the footage was grainy, as i'd mentioned. it was hard to see the telling punches that toney started to land around the middle of the fight. ithink that watrching that fight in crappy 90's internet definition is what led a lot of people to perpetuate the notion that nunn was walking away with the fight.

in reality, toney was slowly working his way into range and landing hard counterpunches.

let me see if i can get a decent video of it on the internet now.

[Pac=Duran]

Dude, exaggerating the "hotness" of the WW division to suit your agenda isn't 100% unbiased. According to Floyd, his hand were hurt, which is consistent with what we know. Now was it just his hands, IMO no. I think he let contenders fight each other. That happens all the time at every weight.

The truth is ODH, Shane, cotto and Manny all waited to fight Floyd. If you were truly 100% unbiased, you'd have pointed that out.

WW was red hot when Floyd retired. Margarito (cheating bastard that he is) was the one that fought them all for Floyd. Floyd turned down 8 million to fight Margo and fought Sharamba Mitchell and Baldomir instead>flange behaviour you must admit.

Why would anyone duck Floyd? He was a guaranteed big pay check from about 2006 onward and a guarantee of very little damage.

[No Tomorrow]

anyway, the footage was grainy, as i'd mentioned. it was hard to see the telling punches that toney started to land around the middle of the fight. ithink that watrching that fight in crappy 90's internet definition is what led a lot of people to perpetuate the notion that nunn was walking away with the fight.

in reality, toney was slowly working his way into range and landing hard counterpunches.

This is something I already discussed pages ago