True or False: James Toney's win over Michael Nunn is better than any win of Floyd's?

[Ahmed_Ismail]

You are just looking at boxrec. You never watched either of them fight.

Thats like looking at Castillos and Maidana's records and being like, they are bums, FLoyd is a bum for having close fights with them.

Records dont tell the story of a fighter. Records reflect how well a fighter was managed. Thats it. There is someone out there who can beat any fighter.

U don't get credit for having a close fight with someone that's below ur level, that's why Mayweather gave Castillo and Maidana rematches to correct that and to prove that he's much better than them, plus Castillo was at 135 and Floyd was moving up to fight him, Maidana was also a bigger guy than Floyd, not like Starling who moved up 2 weight classes (13 pounds) to fight Nunn or Curry who was also moving up to fight Nunn.

[Pac=Duran]

Starling was jumping up 2 weight classes to fight Nunn and he still got a MD, and Curry never fought at 160 before this fight either and he had some losses to D level fighters, if u call these "impressive wins" I don't know what to tell u.

This guy is clearly a boxrec warrior that hasn't watched a Nunn fight in his life lol

[Ahmed_Ismail]

Run for run? Okay... but you admit that Nunn was MUCH more skilled than Bradley correct?

Skilled yes, accomplished more, not necessarily, and that's what count, like I said, Guzman is more skilled than Dela Hoya for instance, is he ranked higher? absoultely not, y? because he doesn't have ATG accomplishments like Dela Hoya has, same with Nunn. I don't care about his POTENTIAL, I only care about his accomplishments, skills for skills Nunn is better than Toney himself and he showed it in the fight, now does that matter now? absolutely not!

[Pac=Duran]

Even at his best, Pacquaio never approached Nunn Skill wise. I love Manny as a fighter, becuase he consistently won fights he shouldn't have been able to win.

He was not special for his skill, he was special for his ability to win the big fights he wasnt suppose to win.

Jirov was getting lit up with counters off the ropes but lets not act like he wasn't landing in return. Toney was too inactive compared to Jirov's non-stop pressure. Like I said I didn't mind Toney getting the decision because the fight should have been stopped in the final round when he was literally in danger of being beaten to death, but Jirov won way more rounds. I think I had him winning by 2/3 points of something.

[Ahmed_Ismail]

This guy is clearly a boxrec warrior that hasn't watched a Nunn fight in his life lol

These are facts and record don't lie, unlike u!

[Pac=Duran]

Even at his best, Pacquaio never approached Nunn Skill wise. I love Manny as a fighter, becuase he consistently won fights he shouldn't have been able to win.

He was not special for his skill, he was special for his ability to win the big fights he wasnt suppose to win.

He was special for his speed and combinations, his heart and the way he always went out to settle the score if he was hit by his opponent. Nobody in boxing history had the crowd as electrified as Manny Pacquiao in his prime. The sound of the crowd when he fought Hatton, Cotto, Barrera, Morales and especially Margarito was absolutely insane. They were squealing and gasping constantly.

[Pac=Duran]

These are facts and record don't lie, unlike u!

You're having an argument about guys who you have never even seen fight. You have watched 2 mins of a Nunn fight and think you can pass judgement and argue?

You are just a Floyd cheerleader, you will always argue on his behalf no matter if you have any knowledge of the situation.

[Ahmed_Ismail]

Pacquaio, and Cotto were his two legitimate foils, he waited out both of their primes, waited for them to both get KOed before fighting them.

Pacquiao was declared this monster at 147 after he beat Cotto, who had just gotten KOed by Margarito a year earlier, does this mean Pacquiao waited for Cotto to get KOed? then Cotto wins a title and beats up Margarito and stops him in probably the best most complete performance in his career, and Floyd fights him right after that and now oh, he already got KOed 4 years ago, same old story!

Pacquiao got KOed twice before he got KOed by Marquez, and if Floyd would've beaten him before he got KOed by Marquez people would say it ain't no biggie, he already got KOed before.

[Ahmed_Ismail]

You're having an argument about guys who you have never even seen fight. You have watched 2 mins of a Nunn fight and think you can pass judgement and argue?

You are just a Floyd cheerleader, you will always argue on his behalf no matter if you have any knowledge of the situation.

I've seen all these fights, and I don't have to see a fight to know that these people were moving up in weight to fight Nunn, they were unranked at middleweight, which doesn't prove much at middleweight.

[Pac=Duran]

Pacquiao was declared this monster at 147 after he beat Cotto, who had just gotten KOed by Margarito a year earlier, does this mean Pacquiao waited for Cotto to get KOed? then Cotto wins a title and beats up Margarito and stops him in probably the best most complete performance in his career, and Floyd fights him right after that and now oh, he already got KOed 4 years ago, same old story!

Pacquiao got KOed twice before he got KOed by Marquez, and if Floyd would've beaten him before he got KOed by Marquez people would say it ain't no biggie, he already got KOed before.

Pacquiao was a monster in 2009! That was 6 years ago he KO'd Cotto you fool.