Comments Thread For: De La Hoya on Mayweather: He's Not TBE, I Beat Him!

[Bep3373]

If Fraud fought them in their primes, nobody would've known who he is. That's why he fought them when he did and ducked the best welters out there when he "retired".

He's far from being TBE.

First of all use youtube...you will see this video whee Floyd called them out in their prime and the announcers said it would be high risk no reward https://*************/watch?v=rqQAcyKTpUA. ...they ducked him ...punk Hoya was the first one saying Floyd didn't have a big enough name ...when he did fight he had all the advantages and still lost ...you guys just saying dumb shhh...canelo one if you favs and you actually can say about ducking is thus a joke ...he lost to Lara ...he fight famous fighters older brothers ...40 year old baldomir and Mosley ...he's like 3 divisions above Joesito Lopez who was beat by berto at his natural weight ...Lara was his best win and I've seem him get knock down twice by a nobody earlier this year ...he's a b- fighter ...who who else journeyman angulo the waking punching bag and now old cotto ...you talking about pampered and not fighting prime fighters ...I've seen him and Floyd together ...he's so much bugger and Floyd dominated him...this is your fav the master ducker ...gtfoh ...he hasn't made 154 in 4 fights it's loaded at 160 ...he as as many fights as Floyd but has fight 1 or 2 so good fighters ...

[Jc8804]

:wank:So floyds last prime fight was vs sharmba mitchell.

When he fought journeymen baldomir leftovers in zab he was past it.
Vs the journeymen baldy himself floyd was past it. And vs oscar he was past it. ??


Ok got it.lmao:wank:

[The Big Dunn]

You just mad that Fraud doesn't give you any of his money and you still living off wellfare, stealing and the occasional looting when a black thug gets shot.

Fraud ducked Cassamayor, Williams, Tszyu, prime Cotto, and blatantly ducked Margarito and a 2008-2010 version of Pacquiao.

Lost to Castillo, ODLH, and Maidana.

If you can't admit it, fine with me. Doesn't make the truth go away.

You know the truth hurts when a poster starts his reply with racism and bigotry to deflect.

Nothing you wrote in this post is true. We get it, you hate Floyd because he beat all the Mexican fighters he faced and Maidana twice, who is one of your favorites.

Sad that it bothers you so much.

[therealpugilist]

See you don't know much about boxing when you only judge things like this based on statistics instead of watching the actual fights and using your eyes.

He had some adversity to overcome like his weight and age but you can face adversity in your prime too.

The 3 fights I mentioned, Floyd was still as fast, explosive, athletic etc. as he was in the 90s-early 00s. I'm watching them right now and I see absolutely zero indication that he was any different visually compared to his younger days.

I'd say from 2010 onwards you can make a case that he started declining, not before that.

We have different set of eyes my friend... Floyd fighting at 154 and 30 years old isn't near as quick with his feet and combos as he was younger at lower weights

Every athlete slows down @ 30....hard to see the decline cause of his skills n staying in shape year round


The best Floyd was 00-05....we can agree to disagree


I'm 30 years old....I can do all I could do at 25 but its about sustaining it....athletes slow down at a certain age like we all do

[Jc8804]

See you don't know much about boxing when you only judge things like this based on statistics instead of watching the actual fights and using your eyes.

He had some adversity to overcome like his weight and age but you can face adversity in your prime too.

The 3 fights I mentioned, Floyd was still as fast, explosive, athletic etc. as he was in the 90s-early 00s. I'm watching them right now and I see absolutely zero indication that he was any different visually compared to his younger days.

I'd say from 2010 onwards you can make a case that he started declining, not before that.

[QUOTE=Golden G;15992339]

Castillo
Maidana
Oscar

Will all have arguments to saying they beat him .

over the the next 20 years people will bring up that these three beat him. People will also bring up that floyd ducked winky forrest paul williams
Stevie johnston tyzsu margarito prime cotto prime pac and GGG if he goes on to have a good career. Boxing purists will also add Lara a as well. Instead we got berto ghost ,ortiz and a small jmm sharmba mitchell and old shane[/QUOTE

Lol I love it when haters reach and talk about things they know nothing about. As far as maidana and Oscar YES they will be known as the guys who beat Floyd in THREE rounds, for ever and ever. What an achievement. As far as Castillo he LOST, then he LOST again. You don't win a bout where you lose 7 in a row. Let's say he won the first fight, what does that prove? That he can beat a handicapped Floyd, yes handicapped with a REAL rotator cuff injury. As far as ducking fighters, LOL here is where it gets funny. Floyd ducked fighters because he retired huh? What was Williams doing after Floyd retired LOSING to quintana. Forrest and Lara WTF, you know damn well Floyd can't make 154 and only fights there for BIG money fights. Winky wright and Floyd have NEVER been in the same weight class. FLoyd called out Johnson and Kostya especially and got no response. He beat the guy who beat them anyway. GGG lol Floyd is ducking the world isn't he? Margacheato lol, Floyd wasn't payed for his last two PPV bouts and so said he will fight margacheato if he can fight Hatton a " prime Cotto" for 10 million and then Oscar for 25 AFTER he beats him and Bob said NO so Floyd left bout himself out of the contract fought the lineal champ and then fought and beat Hatton and Oscar for more than what he asked earlier with Bob. Manny OSDT. Shane ducked Floyd and that's all you got, Marquez who was a tue up and Mitchell who was a title elimator? LOL FOH.

Floyds shoulder injury? Who was his surgeon .how long was his rehab? Did he use salt water from the sea?

Excuses excuses. Nice how it fits your agenda.
winky called his card. Floyd avoided him after that dispute.
Winky put him in his place. Floyd fought oscar and never wanted 154 again after winky clearly told him to his face he would beat him at 154.

Forrest and williams called out floyd and asked Al for the fight . Al steered them away from floyd. Your probably to young to know any of that. Floyd never retired. He avoided a loaded division. He took 4 million to fight mitchell instead of fighting margarito for double. Yeah easy money may. Not money may. TuE doe .. thurmaputic use exemption

[SugarAnt05]

Yes, he is the TBE in his mind. No, de la hoya didnt win. He won 4-5 rounds at best and I was rooting for DLH while at my call center job. Real fans ( d riders or haters) should have Floyd in around top 30 of all time. I wouldn't say he ducked fights like, PW, "prime Cotto", and shane mosley esp mosley as he wanted to fight him a long time ago. Bob Arum wouldnt dare put Cotto in the ring with Floyd back at JWW or WW, especially after the Henry Bruseles fight. Yes, Pac and Floyd should have fought back in '08 but Bob Arum and crew deserve at least 40% of the blame for the fight not happening.

[therealpugilist]

:wank:So floyds last prime fight was vs sharmba mitchell.

When he fought journeymen baldomir leftovers in zab he was past it.
Vs the journeymen baldy himself floyd was past it. And vs oscar he was past it. ??


Ok got it.lmao:wank:

An athlete is at their physical peak @ or near 25 not 30...injuries, naturally slowing comes into.play..what's so hard to understand unless you were never an athlete or coach


Floyd at 130-140 was a superior fighter than 30+ year old Floyd @ 147+

[Bep3373]

Floyd arguably has 3 loses.

And its safe to say had he not missed over 10 fighters who were threats , he could have arguably 5 to 6 loses

That's funny I could say this about any fighter in boxing past and present starting with my fav Ali and definitely sugar ray ...all fighters got a close nod at one point in their career ...Chavez sr vs Whitaker ., sugar ray ...vs hearns or hagler ...why no Aaron prior fight...checks first 55-65 fight were nobodies in Mexico ...fought 3 American black fighters beat roger but he was average ..my point is he stayed in his lane...my other fav mike Tyson fight majority bums but lost to great fighters in his level after taking years and years to make them .
Here's Floyd calling out too fighters he was getting ducked not ducking ...https://*************/watch?v=rqQAcyKTpUA. Only fight debatable was Castillo but that could've gone either way or draw ...beat him easier next fight ...the man will never be THE TBE but he is no doubt best of this ERA

[Bep3373]

Yes, he is the TBE in his mind. No, de la hoya didnt win. He won 4-5 rounds at best and I was rooting for DLH while at my call center job. Real fans ( d riders or haters) should have Floyd in around top 30 of all time. I wouldn't say he ducked fights like, PW, "prime Cotto", and shane mosley esp mosley as he wanted to fight him a long time ago. Bob Arum wouldnt dare put Cotto in the ring with Floyd back at JWW or WW, especially after the Henry Bruseles fight. Yes, Pac and Floyd should have fought back in '08 but Bob Arum and crew deserve at least 40% of the blame for the fight not happening.

I agree with you ..I have Floyd top 20 ...but you are right on point

[therealpugilist]

You just mad that Fraud doesn't give you any of his money and you still living off wellfare, stealing and the occasional looting when a black thug gets shot.

Fraud ducked Cassamayor, Williams, Tszyu, prime Cotto, and blatantly ducked Margarito and a 2008-2010 version of Pacquiao.

Lost to Castillo, ODLH, and Maidana.

If you can't admit it, fine with me. Doesn't make the truth go away.