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  • #51
    Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
    do any of you guys know what prime even means for an athlete??? Floyd was faster, younger, threw more combos, better reflexes and 147 was never his best weight

    its the height of your physical powers, height of your know how and applying it and also as far as boxing it includes fighting at your best weight

    Being 30 and fighting at 154 for the first time isn't exactly prime Mayweather


    Prime Mayweather was at 130-140 from 00-05 was Floyd at his best, championship experience and a supreme athlete....he small at 147 and up fought most of his fights their 30+.....that's not his prime even though he performed at a high level
    See you don't know much about boxing when you only judge things like this based on statistics instead of watching the actual fights and using your eyes.

    He had some adversity to overcome like his weight and age but you can face adversity in your prime too.

    The 3 fights I mentioned, Floyd was still as fast, explosive, athletic etc. as he was in the 90s-early 00s. I'm watching them right now and I see absolutely zero indication that he was any different visually compared to his younger days.

    I'd say from 2010 onwards you can make a case that he started declining, not before that.

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    • #52
      [QUOTE=Jc8804;15992276]Castillo
      Maidana
      Oscar

      Will all have arguments to saying they beat him .

      over the the next 20 years people will bring up that these three beat him. People will also bring up that floyd ducked winky forrest paul williams
      Stevie johnston tyzsu margarito prime cotto prime pac and GGG if he goes on to have a good career. Boxing purists will also add Lara a as well. Instead we got berto ghost ,ortiz and a small jmm sharmba mitchell and old shane[/QUOTE

      Lol I love it when haters reach and talk about things they know nothing about. As far as maidana and Oscar YES they will be known as the guys who beat Floyd in THREE rounds, for ever and ever. What an achievement. As far as Castillo he LOST, then he LOST again. You don't win a bout where you lose 7 in a row. Let's say he won the first fight, what does that prove? That he can beat a handicapped Floyd, yes handicapped with a REAL rotator cuff injury. As far as ducking fighters, LOL here is where it gets funny. Floyd ducked fighters because he retired huh? What was Williams doing after Floyd retired LOSING to quintana. Forrest and Lara WTF, you know damn well Floyd can't make 154 and only fights there for BIG money fights. Winky wright and Floyd have NEVER been in the same weight class. FLoyd called out Johnson and Kostya especially and got no response. He beat the guy who beat them anyway. GGG lol Floyd is ducking the world isn't he? Margacheato lol, Floyd wasn't payed for his last two PPV bouts and so said he will fight margacheato if he can fight Hatton a " prime Cotto" for 10 million and then Oscar for 25 AFTER he beats him and Bob said NO so Floyd left bout himself out of the contract fought the lineal champ and then fought and beat Hatton and Oscar for more than what he asked earlier with Bob. Manny OSDT. Shane ducked Floyd and that's all you got, Marquez who was a tue up and Mitchell who was a title elimator? LOL FOH.
      Last edited by Golden G; 08-25-2015, 08:55 AM.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
        you can tell that some of these people didn't start following the sport til recently


        no one was jumping out of their seat to fight Mayweather before 2007....He wasn't a ppv draw and he was more risk than reward.....from 1998-05 when he was Pretty Boy Floyd he called everyone out near his size

        Mayweather was calling out DLH and Mosley back in the 90's...was calling out Casamayo.even called out Naseem Hamed at a catchweight of 128 after he beat Corrales....Pretty Boy Floyd was hungry and didn't care who he fought
        Yup, but certain posters on NSB like to pretend otherwise. The same reason they give props to GGG-top tier fighters will not fight him-is what they hold against Floyd.

        makes no sense but it is what it is. all we can hope is those posters put honesty/integrity and boxing ahead of hating Floyd.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
          Floyd has no losses and if ODH, SHane, Manny had fought him in their prime instead of waiting, he still would have no losses.
          If Fraud fought them in their primes, nobody would've known who he is. That's why he fought them when he did and ducked the best welters out there when he "retired".

          He's far from being TBE.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Death_Adder View Post
            If Fraud fought them in their primes, nobody would've known who he is. That's why he fought them when he did and ducked the best welters out there when he "retired".

            He's far from being TBE.
            In your heart you know they all, but especially Fishnets Delacoke, refused to fight Floyd in his prime. He could've made a fight with Floyd whenever he wanted to. If you can't admit it, fine with me. Doesn't make the truth go away.

            You are just mad that Floyd has beaten Chavez (jesus), Castillo twice, delacoka, JMM and Canelo.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by techdude69 View Post
              I watched that fight and my honest opinion is that it should of been a draw. It was a such a close fight that it was hard to pick a winner. It could of easily gone to Oscar.
              Lmao ....Floyd a ***** but PAC had all the advantages and still lost ...TBE hell no best if this era no doubt I'll give him that

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                  In your heart you know they all, but especially Fishnets Delacoke, refused to fight Floyd in his prime. He could've made a fight with Floyd whenever he wanted to. If you can't admit it, fine with me. Doesn't make the truth go away.

                  You are just mad that Floyd has beaten Chavez (jesus), Castillo twice, delacoka, JMM and Canelo.
                  You just mad that Fraud doesn't give you any of his money and you still living off wellfare, stealing and the occasional looting when a black thug gets shot.

                  Fraud ducked Cassamayor, Williams, Tszyu, prime Cotto, and blatantly ducked Margarito and a 2008-2010 version of Pacquiao.

                  Lost to Castillo, ODLH, and Maidana.

                  If you can't admit it, fine with me. Doesn't make the truth go away.

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                  • #59
                    Oscar probably got a new coke connect after Angel Garcia ripped him...he probably tried the fish scale product....don't mind that coke head....he was due to say some crazy **** sooner or later....making ****** comments is what he's been known to do these days....Tyrone probably in his mansion right now plugging his wife long **** style

                    Oscar is such a clown...after the fight Larry Merchant asked his hoe ass why he stopped jabbing....his response was that he was touching Floyd with his jab and he could see that he bloodied Floyd's nose...then in the next breathe he said it wasn't a day for the jab ....like WTF?!?!?

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                    • #60
                      Oscar lost but he's right that Floyd isn't the best ever.

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