Comments Thread For: Stevenson To Kovalev: Fight Me and You Won't Be Broke!

[MDPopescu]

50/50 on HBO is still on the table

... it might be on the table, but Haymon doesn't want negotiation; he wants the purse bid.

[cupocity303]

So this is the best talking points that his team could give him after all this time?

A bunch of illogical, Floyd Mayweather-esque "I'm the A-side with all the money" nonsense. I guess they have been reading boxingscene threads and put together a speech for Stevenson, compiling lines from different posters.

[Kel1981]

kovalev is hiding behind the skirts of cathy duva and hbo

Why do you say that?

[HeroBando]

How would they fight on HBO when Stevenson is managed by Al Haymon and HBO has banned all Haymon fighters?

Apparently they're ready to make an exception here. It's a huge unification they've had their eye on forever, plus Stevenson's got a legit promoter they could deal with, Gym

[Mr.Daddy]

"Fight me, and you won't be broke." Yes, and take the word of a pimp, and you're guaranteed to get screwed.

[Scipio2009]

I don't think Stevenson has ever been chomping at the bit to get in the ring with Kovalev. I don't buy that he's "scared" of him either. That's just the way fight fans think now.

That said, Kovalev, his team, and his fans lost the right to play the "duck" card when Duva walked away from the purse bid. Its almost like the Floyd-Manny situation. Where the side that was screaming "duck" is making themselves very easy to "duck."

Adonis Stevenson is a 37-year old prizefighter who turned to the sport late; every move he's made since "making it" has been about securing the most money for himself and his family within however much time he has left in the sport.

HBO was the one who wanted him to fight Fonfara; Showtime came into the picture, offered more money than HBO was willing to match for that same fight, so he went over to HBO, cashing the far bigger checks.

Stevenson's bargaining chip is the WBC/lineal championship, and Kathy Duva, for whatever reason, thought that Team Stevenson would give up their sole bargaining chip over some foolish notion that a prizefighter was earnestly afraid of fighting another man with the same two arms and blood in their veins like any other man.

Kovalev took short money in the Hopkins fight, short money in the Mohammedi fight, and will likely take short money in his Russia fight, all with the chance of making massive money simply sitting there waiting for him.

[kafkod]

Ignore kafkod; he/she is a troll, and a pretty obvious one at that.

HBO's boxing budget isn't what it once was, HBO's boxing schedule is basically down to maybe 5-6 shows to close out the year, and everyone has already seen that HBO is unwilling to compete with the market for the fight.

Kovalev will fight in Russia against a no-hoper (for a show that I doubt HBO picks up), vacate the IBF title when Michel/Haymon/Beterbiev come for the fight, fight some other soft touch to open up the year (Fonfara/Cleverly/Brahemer will likely settle out for Kovalev's WBA belts), and then hope beyond hope that Andre Ward and his camp go to light heavyweight, giving up 15-20 pounds in the ring come fight night.

kafkod writes the same thing for every Stevenson-Kovalev post, as if he/she earnestly believes that HBO is the only outlet willing to put money behind big fights.

I'm a troll? Now that's funny!

Yeah, I write the same thing in every Kovakev/Stevenson thread, and it's always in response to the same lies and bull**** posted over and over again by the Haymon/PBC puppets.

HBO may not be the only outlet willing to put up money for big fights, but it's the only one Kovalev can fight on.

You know that and so does Haymon, which is why he "advised" Gym and Adonis to request an expidited purse bid, instead of negotiating with Duva.

He wasn't trying to get more money for Stevenson, he was getting him out of fighting Kovalev.

Those are the facts and no amount of name calling by you is going to change them.

[kafkod]

Adonis Stevenson is a 37-year old prizefighter who turned to the sport late; every move he's made since "making it" has been about securing the most money for himself and his family within however much time he has left in the sport.

HBO was the one who wanted him to fight Fonfara; Showtime came into the picture, offered more money than HBO was willing to match for that same fight, so he went over to HBO, cashing the far bigger checks.

Stevenson's bargaining chip is the WBC/lineal championship, and Kathy Duva, for whatever reason, thought that Team Stevenson would give up their sole bargaining chip over some foolish notion that a prizefighter was earnestly afraid of fighting another man with the same two arms and blood in their veins like any other man.

Kovalev took short money in the Hopkins fight, short money in the Mohammedi fight, and will likely take short money in his Russia fight, all with the chance of making massive money simply sitting there waiting for him.

He would have taken short money for fighting Stevenson on HBO too, if Gym/Haymon had been willing to negotiate with Duva over the 50/50 split.

I'm positive Kovalev would have made big concessions on the purse split to secure the fight, and Stevenson would have ended up with a very good deal, easily the biggest purse of his career.

[Scipio2009]

The Mayweather Pacquaio thing you've just shat out is pretty biased so its worth completely ignoring

PPV on PBC? Doesnt that take away everything PBC stands for?

PBC has the tie-in with Showtime/CBS, who can broadcast the fight on PPV.

Beyond that, PBC's focus seems to be delivering top-flight boxing back to the fans; putting a single fight on PPV, and a fight that's earnestly big enough to merit PPV, isn't going to harm anyone, tbh.

When Floyd walks away from the sport, besides Stevenson-Kovalev, the only other possible PPV fight in the cue is Klitschko vs Deontay Wilder for the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world. PBC is likely to put on 50 other fight cards on Showtime or regular TV (NBC, CBS, ESPN, etc) before asking the fans to pay for one or two.

[Scipio2009]

So why did Stevenson pull out of the fight the first time it was made? And why did Stevenson not make the fight with Jean Pascal? Al Haymon is obviously brilliant, as evidenced by this move to force a purse bid that was essentially unacceptable. And Stevenson is obviously a dip****.

-Because Showtime was willing to pay significantly more than what HBO was willing to pay, for the very fight that they pushed to make in the first place.

-Because Jean Pascal, as WBC mandatory challenger and only entitled to a 25/75 split of the pot, was demanding a 50/50 split of the take which Team Stevenson balked at.

-And the Stevenson-Hopkins fight didn't happen because Hopkins wanted to come to Stevenson's home market, fight on Canadian PPV, and walk away with a 75/25 split of the take on the fight.

If the purse bid was unacceptable, blame Duva's foolish self for going to the WBC and pushing to mandate the possible fight in the firs place.