Can we agree that Floyd Mayweathers last 5 years of his career is overrated

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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #141
    Originally posted by Divine Hammer
    mayweather beat the "best" WHEN THEY WEREN'T ANYWHERE NEAR THEIR BEST. that's the BIG DIFFERENCE that you completely keep overlooking and it's sad and pathetic. just admit that floyd never fought any top elite fighter in their prime because he was TOO SCARED TO TAKE THE RISK! it's really easy to understand. his resume is completely overrated because at the end of the day he never fought and beat any elite fighter in their prime. no amount of fluffing will change this very simple fact.

    floyd could have fought and beaten a prime manny, a prime cotto, prime mosley, williams, margarito, martinez, GGG, khan, etc. but he chose not to fight them. he instead waited it out, took "retirements", put up roadblocks/made excuses, only fought once a year, etc. how is this TBE??? how is this the attitude of an ATG top ten p4p all time???? it's a big joke really.
    You're the joke. Every win on anyone's resume can be discredited, what cannot is their standing in the sport going into fights.

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    • AllBoxingAD
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      #142
      Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
      Mayweather isn't in his prime, if someone was to beat him they still beat the best fighter in the world, fact. It wasn't just the magazines that had them ranked so highly everyone did, where did you have Pacquiao P4P before the Mayweather fight? Pacquiao past prime? Yes. Pacquiao still the 2nd best fighter in the world only behind Mayweather going into the fight? Yes.

      Mayweather beat the best and that's a fact.
      Mayweather's prime has lasted 20 years.

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        #143
        Originally posted by AllBoxingAD
        In his prime, Floyd was a lightweight.

        But you know, dude should fight GGG or he is a coward.
        Featherweight is 126, lightweight is 135.

        I'm surprised, I thought you would knew that.

        If Mayweather has that belt at 154, he should defend it or drop it. GGG said he'll move down to the weight 154 where Floyd has the WBC belt, no catch weight. GGG is a small middleweight.

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          #144
          in the last 5 years, boring fraud jr never had an exciting fight and eventually will be proven that he's one of the few fraud champs that will be easily forgotten.

          his legacy is comparable to a stinky fart. smells but will dissipate quickly.

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            #145
            Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
            You picked Pacquiao to beat Mayweather, you probably picked Canelo etc to win too but then discredit him when he beats them.
            Wrong, check the poll. I picked Mayweather to beat the faded Manny by decision, judges having it wider than it actually was. And that was perfectly correct.

            In his prime, Pacquiao would have destroyed Floyd. But Manny has not been the same since being KOed by Marquez.

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              #146
              Originally posted by Freedom.
              Featherweight is 126, lightweight is 135.

              I'm surprised, I thought you would knew that.

              If Mayweather has that belt at 154, he should defend it or drop it. GGG said he'll move down to the weight 154 where Floyd has the WBC belt, no catch weight. GGG is a small middleweight.
              Not only has Mayweather's prime lasted 20 years, it also spanned 5 weight classes.

              I mean, thats gotta be some kind of record right?

              Because it doesnt seem humanly possible...

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                #147
                Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                You're the joke. Every win on anyone's resume can be discredited, what cannot is their standing in the sport going into fights.
                and majority of floyd's wins can absolutely completely be discredited without a doubt. this is what u fail to even understand. u try to overrate his resume by bringing up these numbers and these boxrec facts but the real fact remains that floyd never fought and beaten an elite/future hof'er in their prime. when u look at ali, robinson, leonard, duran, louis, etc. they all beat prime fellow hof'ers. so they've proven time and again their greatness during their career. all floyd has proven is his business savvy, his ability to manipulate skew things, and make himself to appear greater than he actually is.

                floyd never took big risks, never fought dangerous threats in their prime, never fought for greatness and glory but only for MONEY, floyd is the biggest fraud of this era. and its a complete joke that he has fans to perpetuate his lie and his propaganda to the masses. absolutely pathetic.

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Freedom.
                  Featherweight is 126, lightweight is 135.

                  I'm surprised, I thought you would knew that.

                  If Mayweather has that belt at 154, he should defend it or drop it. GGG said he'll move down to the weight 154 where Floyd has the WBC belt, no catch weight. GGG is a small middleweight.
                  He's using your logic against you.

                  You discredit Mayweathers win over Guerrero because his prime weight was 126, but want a fighter who's prime weight was 135 to fight Golovkin.

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Red Cyclone
                    One of the most overrated resume of boxing history possibly on the same level of Rocky Marciano with a mix of Joe Calzaghe and Sven Ottke.

                    With the mention of Rocky Marciano I think It'd be fair to say that Floyd decided to pick the fight with Manny Pacquiao six years when he went through losses against Bradley (controversial) and Juan Manuel Marquez KO loss instead of fighting him right after the dominating win over Miguel Cotto.

                    The thing is can we really take a fighter serious who is suppose to be rated with the greats of Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali when he dictated so much of his career on when he decided to fight his opponents?
                    For me this is a massive deduction to credit and legitimacy to rating of his overall career and partly why he wont be rated higher than Manny Pacquiao overall in the ratings.

                    To be a great it means more than waiting out and making smart decisions i.e. when a fighter is past his best that is a smart decision but not something which proves you as the best quality fighter this is why someone like Wladimir Klitschko deserves to be rated ahead of him, you just simply cannot always determine your opponents all the time and expect to be rated as the number one not only does Wladimir pick the better opponents but he is the better ambassador for the sport who doesn't disrespect the sport of boxing with any criminal behavior win or loss against Tyson Fury it is clear as day that Wladimir is being unfairly treated because of the hype around Floyds name not the accomplishments of the man.
                    You had Guerrero ranked #10 p4p

                    Originally posted by Red Cyclone
                    1 Floyd Mayweather
                    2 Sergio Martinez
                    3 Manny Pacquiao
                    4 Wladimir Klitschko
                    5 Juan Manuel Marquez
                    6 Nonito Donaire
                    7 Andre Ward
                    8 Vitali Klitschko
                    9 Danny Garcia
                    10 Robert Guerrero

                    Yeah 10th I'd say.

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                      #150
                      And?

                      When he was a Welterweight you considered him Top 10 P4P.

                      So you must have thought he was a good WW.

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