Can we agree in the last 5 years Floyd has been on a tear

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  • Syf
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    #131
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    Sounds like a whole load of excuses to me.
    Just spitting facts Dan.


    I know this board is adverse to them. They want to all gather around and fellate some guy's rickety mirage....


    But I ain't doing that.

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #132
      Originally posted by El-blanco
      Care to point out how Bradley's resume is so laughable? Please break it down old man. Explain to me why prime Devon is a **** win compared to Maidana, who's best win is broner. Never mind the fact Devon humiliated him. Please go onto explain how a win over pre ktfo pac and post ktfo Marquez is worse than the versions Floyd fought.
      I didn't say his resume is laughable.

      Saying his resume 2010-2015 is better than Floyd's is laughable, though.

      I also don't know why you're pretending that Bradley beat Pacquaio.

      Abregu
      Alexander
      Casamayor
      Provodnikov
      Marquez
      Vargas

      Mosley
      Ortiz
      Cotto
      Guererro
      Canelo
      Maidana x2
      Pacquaio

      Not hard to see which one is better.

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      • El-blanco
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        #133
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        I didn't say his resume is laughable.

        Saying his resume 2010-2015 is better than Floyd's is laughable, though.

        I also don't know why you're pretending that Bradley beat Pacquaio.

        Abregu
        Alexander
        Casamayor
        Provodnikov
        Marquez
        Vargas

        Mosley
        Ortiz
        Cotto
        Guererro
        Canelo
        Maidana x2
        Pacquaio

        Not hard to see which one is better.
        I realize Mosley was highly rated at the time because of his previous win but he was on a 16th month layoff and drew with Sergio ****in Mora a few months later. That's a pretty good indication of the type of fighter he was when Floyd fought him.
        Marquez>canelo
        Devon>Maidana
        Ruslan>Guerrero
        Pacquiao>cotto
        Lol@ortiz and Joel
        I'm not making this argument to discredit Floyd, he's one of the greatest I've ever seen over the last 20 years as a fan, but I don't think it's nailed in stone or absurd to suggest someone else had a good run too. We have differing opinions but it's legitimately debatable who's is better.

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        • Suckmedry
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          #134
          if floyds name was flint mathers and he was a white guy from youngstown Ohio he would be loved by all even if he still did everything he did

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          • IronDanHamza
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            #135
            Originally posted by El-blanco
            I realize Mosley was highly rated at the time because of his previous win but he was on a 16th month layoff and drew with Sergio ****in Mora a few months later. That's a pretty good indication of the type of fighter he was when Floyd fought him.
            Marquez>canelo
            Devon>Maidana
            Ruslan>Guerrero
            Pacquiao>cotto
            Lol@ortiz and Joel
            I'm not making this argument to discredit Floyd, he's one of the greatest I've ever seen over the last 20 years as a fan, but I don't think it's nailed in stone or absurd to suggest someone else had a good run too. We have differing opinions but it's legitimately debatable who's is better.
            Again, don't know why you're including Pacquaio for Bradley.

            Best to worst;

            Pacquaio >Marquez
            Canelo > Alexander
            Cotto > Ruslan
            Mosley > Abregu
            Maidana > Vargas
            Ortiz > Casamayor
            Guererro > N/A
            Maidana 2 > N/A

            It is clearly Floyd.

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            • El-blanco
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              #136
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              Again, don't know why you're including Pacquaio for Bradley.

              Best to worst;

              Pacquaio >Marquez
              Canelo > Alexander
              Cotto > Ruslan
              Mosley > Abregu
              Maidana > Vargas
              Ortiz > Casamayor
              Guererro > N/A
              Maidana 2 > N/A

              It is clearly Floyd.
              I'm including the pac win for Bradley as the Castillo win is included for Floyd. So, if we go by your break down.
              Pac>pac
              Marquez>canelo
              See how it's not so absurd? You can mix and match who you think is better after those wins, cotto>Devon, etc. fact remains Bradley beat a better version of pacquiao and beat a fully adjusted Marquez at ww. Those two wins are better than beating a past it manny and an enigma in canelo. The rest is a wash.

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              • IronDanHamza
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                #137
                Originally posted by El-blanco
                I'm including the pac win for Bradley as the Castillo win is included for Floyd. So, if we go by your break down.
                Pac>pac
                Marquez>canelo
                See how it's not so absurd? You can mix and match who you think is better after those wins, cotto>Devon, etc. fact remains Bradley beat a better version of pacquiao and beat a fully adjusted Marquez at ww. Those two wins are better than beating a past it manny and an enigma in canelo. The rest is a wash.
                The difference is the Castillo fight was close which showed with press row being split down the middle.

                Pacquaio-Bradley wasn't close. 1% didn't have Pacquaio winning.

                I've already broken it down for best to worse. It's not debatable which is better.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Syf
                  Floyd's victories as of late don't feel very victorious. Just keeping it real.

                  Kovalev now,.

                  Fought more opponents, beat campillo, Hopkins, pascal, amongst a slew of other opponents... Has Ward and Stevenson running scared, And unlike the hugging clinchfest games of tag with tongue in cheek bs financial machine media spin that corrupts everything from commentary to judging, to reffing,

                  Krusher has been putting people down, emphatically


                  Can't ask for more than that... Floyd's record and victories would not be possible if he wasn't part of the corrupt establishment. Its largely mirage.

                  But ok.
                  Looooooool. Did you just seriously mention Kovalev? That's got to be a joke, right?

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                  • Jc8804
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                    #139
                    Lmao at this biased thread.

                    Thats a c level resume last 5 years.

                    Overated.

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                    • Cinci Champ
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                      #140
                      honestly tho i dont see how you could really argue floyds resume anymore after the last 3 years. hes scalped everyone in his era pretty much besides a fighter here or there but everyone people said he was scared of he fought and beat im sure everyone will say each one was too young or too old or whatever an excuse for each one. I mean if you take any boxer and pick and poke why certain fights dont matter i mean look at ali are we gonna say his liston wins were any less because liston was past it? i mean come on guys you try to hard. all this means is he was great in the information age think about it. You go back and take any famous boxer you can find excuses on why he beat such and such. If leanord fought now a day he would be considered a ducker think about how crazy that is. he avoided low balled pryor he ducked hagler until he was almost retired. He made crazy stipulations for all the hearn fights he got duran to get right back in the ring even tho it was a dirty dirty move. think about it you can pick and poke any fighters resume if u look for any little thing its jsut floyd is a hated fighter the best of his era in the information age point blank period
                      Last edited by Cinci Champ; 08-23-2015, 04:50 AM.

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