Hagler/Hearns/Duran would destroy GGG

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  • PivotandRoll
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    #51
    Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS
    I always find these types of threads more of compliments to the mentioned fighter. If you have to dig deep into boxing history to find legendary fighters in order to beat some current boxer that's saying a lot.
    Well I wouldn't know who to pick between him and a prime Pavlik tbh so don't let idiots like this make you think GGG is on that level. He is not, at least he hasn't proved it in anyway yet.

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    • Killer_of_Sheep
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      #52
      GGG would be too big for Duran, but Duran is so good and crafty that is hard to bet against him.

      I think Duran vs. GGG would play out like Duran vs. Hagler, Duran losing a very close decision. But i can see Duran out-working and out-smarting GGG.

      GGG vs. Hear would be very intense, but Hearns was pretty vulnerable at MW and was consistently hurt by lesser fighter (and punchers) than Golovkin. I think Golovkin comes from behind to score a TKO in the later rounds.

      GGG vs. Hagler would be a war, kinda like Hagler vs. Roldan or Mugabi. Hagler stops Golovkin in the late rounds in a FOTY battle.

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      • lefthook2daliva
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        #53
        Originally posted by Greenbeanz
        the guy is OK, Im not taking away credit where its due, but he wouldnt last 6 rounds with Hagler and Hearns would ice him in 4 rounds tops.

        I think your case might be a bit overstated, but until he fights somebody (sombodies would be better) really really good, it's tough to think that he'd beat any of those guys.

        Maybe one could make an argument based on his amateur prowess plus the eyeball test, but my eyeball still favors Hagler over any other MW (or near MW plus or minus) that I've ever watched.

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        • 2shameless
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          #54
          Hagler yes, Hearns probably. Duran would be interesting.

          Originally posted by lefthook2daliva
          I think your case might be a bit overstated, but until he fights somebody (sombodies would be better) really really good, it's tough to think that he'd beat any of those guys.

          Maybe one could make an argument based on his amateur prowess plus the eyeball test, but my eyeball still favors Hagler over any other MW (or near MW plus or minus) that I've ever watched.
          I'd favor Roy Jones Jr and Hopkins over Hagler out of those I've seen fight. SRL is probably a pick em, I scored their fight a draw.

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          • soul_survivor
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            #55
            Originally posted by GoldenGloveLove
            Getting to round 14 in a FOTY with a prime SRL is more chin proof than Golovkin has ever had to show. Hearns chin problems are overblown.
            Hearns was getting dizzy with every punch that was landed on him, it's just that Leonard didn't land much for a while in the fight. Hearns boxed supremely off the back foot. And this wasn't the only time, in a number of championship/contender level contests, Hearns was wobbled by less than stellar punches but his own punch and skills always helped him through.

            GGG, hasn't had to prove that chin, I agree but he hasn't needed to and his power is legit, what ever you may think of the rest of him. And power like that hurts Hearns who was far from a natural MW, in fact he never seemed to fill out in the division. His best weight was probably 168-170. It's when he looked at his best and most muscular but by then he was no longer the great fighter he'd once been.

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            • Elroy1
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              #56
              Originally posted by PivotandRoll
              If you really believe this ...and I'm not hating on GGG(he is a killer) you are mentally ******ed. Comparing a guy who's best win is Martin Murray to ATG's. You are a joke.
              The moment you mentioned "ATG" as a defence, you INSTANTLY lost!

              All Time Great can ONLY mean that you were great relevant to the competition of your day and those that came before it. It cannot possibly have taken into account ANYTHING in reality that happened afterwards, unless the board that determined said boxer to be an ATG first invented a time machine to check that he would still be considered so throughout all eternity.

              ATG therefore is merely an honourable label applied to boxers who distinctly achieved in their own time.. NOT "ALL" time.

              In terms of H2H, ATG is utterly worthless..

              And in fact, even a quick bit of research reveals the truth...

              ALMOST every ATG who has ever existed would be utterly obliterated by ANY half decent boxer today! FACT!

              ^Now Hagler and Hearns and Duran were special, and so they are an exception to the rule!

              Except, Duran is a much crapper version of Pac, Hearns was fast, long and powerful but especially chinny (and GGG walks straight through the hardest hitters anyway and is more skilled than Hearns) and Hagler is a lesser version of Canelo!!

              ^This is simply how it is when you actually WATCH them box!

              AND..

              Let's not forget HOW these guys met with their ATG status... By fighting each other!

              GGG has instilled so much fear amongst his peers that none of the other top fighters WANT to even face him!

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              • just the facts
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                #57
                Originally posted by Elroy1
                Duran would be obliterated by GGG

                Hearns has a punchers chance but would likely be knocked out.

                Best match is Hagler who would be a considerably large underdog against Golovkin.

                Those are the facts.

                OP hits us with another standard hate filled thread.

                Pathetic!
                Proven atg Hagler would be the a large underdog vs a fighter with ZERO quality wins? GTFOH, dumb anti American priick

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                • just the facts
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Elroy1
                  I appraise merely on boxing capabilities, excluding any and all forms of bias. If a said black guy beats a said white guy, so it is, and vice verse. The "race" card has zero bearing on any analysis.

                  On the "size" point- I issue it is relevant "actual" importance in any given contest. It happens to be an absolute irrefutable fact (proven by stats) that bigger is better (in most cases).

                  More the point size may overwhelm Duran here but that isn't true for taller Hearns and stockier Hagler is it?

                  GGG beats these guys on paper imo because he is simply better!
                  Better based on what? That long list of elite boxers and murderous punchers on gggs resume? Admit it, you base all of your opinions not on fact but bias and racism

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                  • aldo5408
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                    #59
                    I believe it. He would knock Duran on his ass and KO him in two if he fights

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                    • BigAlexSand
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                      #60
                      Individuals on this site need to realize every boxer from ATG's to Current Champs all have weaknesses... Period. Every fighter does meet his polar opposite or his krytonite. There are the exception but that is obviously a feat rarely seen to go undefeated in this sport. To claim Hagler/Duran/Hearns would not have an issue with any current boxer is bordering clear ******ty.

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